Clockwork- Bar and stem geometry

[Jussa]

More pics and info can be seen on my threads, but here are a couple of pics;

With KORE stem and World Force Risers, and then in its current set-up with Orange SK8 Stem and Orange HotRods (although i now have silver ones fitted and pace RC38 Airforce Mk 1 Forks)

 

[Elsubstar]

I suggest you re-measure the A-C of that Marzocchi and you'll find that it's at least 460

Yep, your right, even more than I thought. The head angle certainly is slack for that frame but as Andy B says

Orange did say the frame could take upto 100m forks

I also ride a "07 Stumpy FSR and a road bike so in comparison the C'work is not so extreme, as just 'not right'. Saying that I have stuck on the 670 (!) wide high rise bar and 100mm stem that it came with, I took it to Bedgebury last night and it feels SOOOO much better! Its starting to show what it is capable of. A bit more fine tuning needed tho I think. I am having thoughts on getting a wide but flat bar with a suitable stem to replicate the setup I find to suit me.

By the way Andy B, this is all your fault! It was your C'work rebuild that inspired me to do a c'work rebuild, I spotted on 'tinternet one day and thought that would be a great project to take up my spare time (better than sitting on the sofa watching carp on the telly box!)

Here is a pic of the steed before work began-

 

[Elsubstar]

The frame once it was stripped down -

 

[MikeD]

Those first risers are crazy narrow (especially with the bar ends on). I was going to suggest a wider bar but you've beaten me to it Wide flat would look good.

 

[Elsubstar]

What is it with you lot and bar ends? So they are ok on flat bars but not on risers?

 

[Jussa]

What is it with you lot and bar ends? So they are ok on flat bars but not on risers?

Nowt wrong with bar-ends, guess its a bit like Marmite, you either love em or hate em,

Cant believe the transformation by the way, great to see before and after pics

 

[Elsubstar]

Cant believe the transformation by the way, great to see before and after pics Smile

Thanks, Ill probably do a proper post when the bike is finished.. will paint the bars and stem to match once ive made up my mind on geometry, and sorted some decals.

I am just wondering if the flat bars of "97 had any back sweep? Looking on CRC, 580 wide bars have a back sweep of 5° and the wider 680 wide bars have a 9° back sweep.

 

[MikeD]

Wide bars with not much sweep aren't very comfy IME. The originals would probably have been 5deg or so, but almost certainly sub-600mm too.

 

[Jussa]

Wide bars with not much sweep aren't very comfy IME. The originals would probably have been 5deg or so, but almost certainly sub-600mm too.

I've just managed to get some very clean, uncut Orange HotRods in Silver, i will do some measuring, its got me thinking now, but i do agree they are really comfy and i find my riding position better than using riser bars.

 

[Elsubstar]

Is it not possible to create the same position using riser or flat bars with a different stem? Did the riser bar come after the flat bar to give a more comfortable riding position without having to change the stem?
I hate these evil little questions that pop into my head! :twisted: