Clive Stuart Cycles
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curyam
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This looks like the best place on the interwebs to post a recent addition to my group of vintage road bikes.
Acquired a Clive Stuart frame+fork, serial 181 on both.
Bike purchased in Seattle and seller knew nothing of its' history other than he bought it used in Seattle took the Campa parts.
I have read everything I could find with a quick search, but I have 2 questions and trying to get answers (if possible). Date of the build (year) and who may have brazed it?
A friend locally has a CS with wrapped seatstays he dated to 1968 that has a serial # after this one.
Acquired a Clive Stuart frame+fork, serial 181 on both.
Bike purchased in Seattle and seller knew nothing of its' history other than he bought it used in Seattle took the Campa parts.
I have read everything I could find with a quick search, but I have 2 questions and trying to get answers (if possible). Date of the build (year) and who may have brazed it?
A friend locally has a CS with wrapped seatstays he dated to 1968 that has a serial # after this one.
Talking with my friend we wondered whether each shop made several types of frames or whether builders at each shop had their specialty. Paul Washington was known for wrap-over stays, would he have also built the fastback seat clusters - or did perhaps Alec Bird do the fastback stays?
More pics of mine since I could not edit above.
More pics of mine since I could not edit above.
Old Ned
Old School Grand Master
Nice frame. Very like PG's with the chroming but with the fast back seat stays I'd say it was most likely to have been a 'southern' shop frame by Alec Bird. Date possibly late 60's/early 70's going by the lack of lever bosses and the cable guides along top tube and over the BBshell.
What is your plan for it?
What is your plan for it?
thank you for the reply.
With a frame number 181, it should be 60's, but I have no idea how many frames were produced. I have seen an Alec Bird frame with the fastback seat cluster, but it would be a bit of a leap to say he brazed it.
1975 Alec Bird | Flickr
and here's a link to CS #216 that lives close by but is different.
1968 Clive Stuart | Flickr
Plans? The paint cleaned up nicely with some polishing compound. Touch-up has to wait until getting to the hobby store for a match. Decals are good with acceptable patina. The build will be Campy NR (F&R ders, shifters, brakes), but I want smaller chainrings for riding big/long hills. Tubulars - Campy hubs with anodized Nisi rims. I'll be on the look-out for silver rims.
It will join a dozen other roadies in the group, so it won't get a lot of miles from my legs - but a new life with a couple of Holdworth's for national mates (branded as Irish Hardings) and some Euros.
regards to all
stuart harding
With a frame number 181, it should be 60's, but I have no idea how many frames were produced. I have seen an Alec Bird frame with the fastback seat cluster, but it would be a bit of a leap to say he brazed it.
1975 Alec Bird | Flickr
and here's a link to CS #216 that lives close by but is different.
1968 Clive Stuart | Flickr
Plans? The paint cleaned up nicely with some polishing compound. Touch-up has to wait until getting to the hobby store for a match. Decals are good with acceptable patina. The build will be Campy NR (F&R ders, shifters, brakes), but I want smaller chainrings for riding big/long hills. Tubulars - Campy hubs with anodized Nisi rims. I'll be on the look-out for silver rims.
It will join a dozen other roadies in the group, so it won't get a lot of miles from my legs - but a new life with a couple of Holdworth's for national mates (branded as Irish Hardings) and some Euros.
regards to all
stuart harding
