Claud Butler

:LOL:

Claud Butlers are superb value for money, the modern Cape Wrath kicks most the major manufacturers arses in that department

It's also won plenty of awards in lots of magazines. It's a vastly superior bike (handling wise) compared to any modern Kona in the same price range.

Who gives a crap where it was built, if it rides well (and it does) it shouldn't matter.
 
I love an occasional rant and everybody is entitled to one - isn't that what internet forums are for?

However lets try and keep it to banter rather than a personal attack on any individuals bike (if that is the case :? )
 
For the record, Kona's are all made in Taiwan and always have been, with the exception of the titanium frames and the steel "custom" frames like the Hot and the first Caldera, as well as the alloy Ku frame. So though I'm not disagreeing about the ride quality (of Kona in general, not as compared to a CB as I've never ridden one), it clearly has more to do with geometry than where the welds were made. Most of Kona's steel frames were made from different grades of Tange cro-mo, as well.

Admittedly, I'm not altogether sure what the beef is anyway, as I had a little trouble deciphering with the lack of punctuation :? , but felt this little tidbit should be mentioned.
 
crikey,hope people arent slaging other peoples bikes off :shock:

ive had a few cb's old and new,theyre good bikes,might not be the trendiest brand admittably but who cares?the birds in the trees in the moors arent gonna give a **** if your on an apollo atomic or a yo eddy!get over it and ride


also,if youve nowt good to say...........dont say anything at all.
 
MTB magazines use young ladies to sell bikes these days look at a magazine from 10 years ago no girls just bikes and as for reviews consider this if they slagged everything off nobody would send them anything to review.


I accept at the price it may well get good reviews have you noticed that it's a specialized \ Priciple frame built in the same factory companys don't design products of their own just like the shared floor plan of say a sabb and vaxhall I didn't mean to rude but it's not yeti is and it's true we wouldn't work for the far east rates would we. Think about 60 year ago a shop could build you a frame they did just shift stock in plastic bags now we have the constant merry go round of product change which is good because I can get parts cheap on the web but at what cost I certainly never go to my local bike shop and there you have the answer why go to a shop when you can a badly built bike from the web no product service no product love bland homganized products or plastic shapes that change yearly which yo can't repair.

PS Im not and OAP
 
lemusrey":13y4wtte said:
MTB magazines use young ladies to sell bikes these days look at a magazine from 10 years ago no girls just bikes and as for reviews consider this if they slagged everything off nobody would send them anything to review.


I accept at the price it may well get good reviews have you noticed that it's a specialized \ Priciple frame built in the same factory companys don't design products of their own just like the shared floor plan of say a sabb and vaxhall I didn't mean to rude but it's not yeti is and it's true we wouldn't work for the far east rates would we. Think about 60 year ago a shop could build you a frame they did just shift stock in plastic bags now we have the constant merry go round of product change which is good because I can get parts cheap on the web but at what cost I certainly never go to my local bike shop and there you have the answer why go to a shop when you can a badly built bike from the web no product service no product love bland homganized products or plastic shapes that change yearly which yo can't repair.

PS Im not and OAP

I've got to laugh at the grammer... you certainly are not an OAP or you may be able to write something we could understand!

OP = Original Poster ;)
 

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