Classic steel

[bduc61]

breezer's steel

about the steel of the breezers, is there a big difference between the frames done with ritchey logic prestige tubing until 95
and the latter ones in D Fusion cromoly ? in 96(well in 96 - called heat treated cromoly and not D Fusion yet) , 97 ( and 98 for the lightning)
Does someone knows who was the manufacturer of this D fusion stuff ?
Tange maybe ? and these frames were welded in Taiwan ?

(evidently breezer commited a sin swapping to the latter tin can stuff loosing its soul for marketing or cost purposes :roll: )

The fork in prestige is said to be quite confortable for a rigid by the way .

about scapin, they are indeed very likable but in very limited numbers to be found outside italy

 

[Poyares]

1994 DiamondBack Axis TR.
True Temper TT Lite.

 

[MJN]

My Yo Eddie is still the best steel bike I've ridden

 

[Crayons]

Can I add the following:

Fat Chance Wicked – as it seems to be overlooked against all these Yo's

 

[MJN]

Alas,never ridden a Wicked so can't really comment,they do look nice though.

 

[Elev12k]

Re: breezer's steel

about the steel of the breezers, is there a big difference between the frames done with ritchey logic prestige tubing until 95
and the latter ones in D Fusion cromoly ? in 96(well in 96 - called heat treated cromoly and not D Fusion yet) , 97 ( and 98 for the lightning)
Does someone knows who was the manufacturer of this D fusion stuff ?
Tange maybe ? and these frames were welded in Taiwan ?

(evidently breezer commited a sin swapping to the latter tin can stuff loosing its soul for marketing or cost purposes :roll: )

The fork in prestige is said to be quite confortable for a rigid by the way .

about scapin, they are indeed very likable but in very limited numbers to be found outside italy

All steel off the shelf Breezers exept a very small number of one model (Lightning or Cloud 9, I do not recall) in a particular year were made in Taiwan. The little batch non Taiwan frames were made by Toyo in Japan. The earlier aluminum Breezers were made by American in the US. The very 1st steel ones were of course US made.

Untill several years ago the Breezer frame was still available from Hodaka. Including the characteristic retro paint. No idea what D Fusion tubing stands for.

Juchem
Earlier in the topic I saw Juchem included in the list of steel builders. Juchem is an aluminum specialist and does explicitely not do steel.

 

[Easy_Rider]

Page 4 and no mention of Parkpre Pro825 Tange Ultimate Ultralight :shock:

Where's Rekiborter gone?

 

[bduc61]

Re: breezer's steel

about the steel of the breezers, is there a big difference between the frames done with ritchey logic prestige tubing until 95
and the latter ones in D Fusion cromoly ? in 96(well in 96 - called heat treated cromoly and not D Fusion yet) , 97 ( and 98 for the lightning)
Does someone knows who was the manufacturer of this D fusion stuff ?
Tange maybe ? and these frames were welded in Taiwan ?

The fork in prestige is said to be quite confortable for a rigid by the way .

All steel off the shelf Breezers exept a very small number of one model (Lightning or Cloud 9, I do not recall) in a particular year were made in Taiwan. The little batch non Taiwan frames were made by Toyo in Japan. The earlier aluminum Breezers were made by American in the US. The very 1st steel ones were of course US made.

Untill several years ago the Breezer frame was still available from Hodaka. Including the characteristic retro paint. No idea what D Fusion tubing stands for.

Has anyone ridden a "Heat treated Cromoly" 96 Breezer Lightning then ?
I am bumping into one frame in France so thought could give it a try
How does it compare with a fat chance ?

 

[stu]

Good thread!

I must admit I'm partial to steel frames! apart from the bikes I'm already lucky enough to have and ride I'd love to own a Roberts and/or a Zinn one day.

Oh, and no-one has mentioned Retrotec, another frame I'd happily give a home to

Stu

 

[IbocProSX]

Juchem
Earlier in the topic I saw Juchem included in the list of steel builders. Juchem is an aluminum specialist and does explicitely not do steel.

That was me, and I stand corrected, I had the image of Wiesmann and Noll connected to Juchem somehow, but apparently mistaken.

BTW I'm surprised you haven't brought up the Japanese steel frames from Miyata, Panasonic or Bridgestone while you are here.

I read a lot of German Bike Mags in my early MTB days as they were a wealth of information on all things MTB compared to the Dutch offerings. Always struck me the large number of "national" MTB brands, Germany, UK or France focused, and some of them make very nice bikes never seen on these shores.

Enjoy!!