Cinelli stem length

[Springhead]

I've searched but can't find a definitive answer to this one.

So for a Cinelli 1A, say 110mm, where is the measurment taken?

a) centre to centre along the top?
b) centre to centre along the side (like the ITM stems I have)
c) end to end??

I know the reach I'm trying to achieve, but not sure how that would translate into a particular size Cinelli.

Thanks,

 

[bobbinogs]

Erm, none of the above?

I have a few XA stems (lovely, lovely) and the way the length works out seems to be from the top of the headset bolt to the centre of the handlebar hole!

 

[Springhead]

Wow that was quick!

That's probably what I meant by a). So looking down from the top it's the centreline of the upright bit of the stem (through the head of the bolt) to the centreline of the bars.

That to me is the most logical way, but ITM seem to measure along the side.

I've bought a set of Cinelli bars, 26.4, so trying to find a stem of the correct length.

Thank you!

 

[1988_Ben]

Wow that was quick!

That's probably what I meant by a). So looking down from the top it's the centreline of the upright bit of the stem (through the head of the bolt) to the centreline of the bars.

That to me is the most logical way, but ITM seem to measure along the side.

I've bought a set of Cinelli bars, 26.4, so trying to find a stem of the correct length.

Thank you!

The other really nice make from 'back in the day' was TTT (TecnoTuboTorino - now called 3T) if you can't get a Cinelli, though I'm sure you will.

Bobbinogs is correct, and that system of measuring reach is still used today for aheadset stems.

I'm not sure what era your bike is, but you might find the following web page useful :

http://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html

 

[Springhead]

That's a very useful site. Always wondered what the 2A/3A were!


Thanks,

 

[ScillySuffolk]

Very useful link, thanks.

I had been listing the different bars and was trying to figure out the difference: now I know!

Any idea what a "stayer" is/was? The first column of the chart lists: #1 Road
#2, #3 Track #4 Stayer.

 

[Midlife]

How about a Nitto Pearl............classic looking stem

Shaun

PS if you are searching for stems online it's best to search for "3ttt" if you are looking for.......... 3t stuff

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

I believe a Stayer was a form of motor paced track event. Rather than use mincy little motorised hair driers, the bikes tended to be much larger engined machines.

The name refers to the fact that riders were either sprinters or stayers. They could reach huge speeds for a long time. Forks were the wrong way around so that the riders could tuck ever closer to the motorbike.

Elev12K had one for sale a while back. It still goes on in parts of Europe.

 

[Midlife]

Was that posted in the right place

Shaun

PS looking at them riding with the forks the wrong way round was a bit strange.......Carlton actually made a frame called a stayer with reversed forks IIRC.

 

[ScillySuffolk]

Thanks for the explanation.

I'd seen stayers on Hilary Stone and wondered how someone of his experience could photograph a bike with the forks the wrong way around.

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