chain waxing

[clubby]

What kind of topology do you ride on?

Why the downbeat take on MucOff? Worried about their formulation expertise?

Woodland, sandy costal paths and Scottish glens/ highlands. Can ride on sandy paths and very little sticks.

Have tried a few Muc Off lubes as Lidl always had them on discount. The yellow (dry) one gunked up the jockey wheels and the wet one just turned into a black sticky mess within half a ride. Also foolishly tried the expensive ceramic road one but that was just as bad.
The original pink Muc Off is also famous for making a mess of anodised or raw finishes. Tubeless sealant (fitted by bike shop not me) was too thick to seal small holes and was a glittery messy pita to clean out of the tyres. To be fair their spray chain cleaner is pretty decent for the price.

 

[minor_LEGEND]

/\ Have to say I agree with most of that /\
I will add, some of the lubes ALDI/Lidl etc have on specials is a different product to many of the ones you'll find from typical industry cycle retailers. But the ceramic lube (oil) is a total mare to clean from chains. I couldn't find a solvent that would shift it, so just got hold of another chain & only use that lube on the chains of people I don't like. The Yellow (dry) lube is pretty ineffective, but I do like the regular (Blue label) oil & was using that prior to taking up Hot immersion waxing.

I mentioned in my first reply that I didn't recommend hot-waxing particularly, my next product to try will be Squirt, a bottled wax lube which has great reviews.

 

[clubby]

The Laldi stuff is usually labelled as the Urban range, but still coloured yellow and blue and I’m sure it’s exactly the same kind of pish that’s in it.

my next product to try will be Squirt, a bottled wax lube which has great reviews

Not from me it doesn’t.

 

[bikeworkshop]

I've just waxed my £60 connex chain - what a pita.
I think the difference in longevity will be down to cleaning it thoroughly in the parts washer.

My aerospace friends don't think wax is fluid enough for the application in chain rollers.

But it won't pick up dirt like a liquid.

So next time I'm back to:
Superclean the chain. (Enzyme parts washer)
Fresh, thick oil.
(Finnish Lion wet pref)
Repeat as often as i can be bothered.

Replace the chain before it's too late - easier with a £20 sram rather than the £60 wipperman

 

[2manyoranges]

Woodland, sandy costal paths and Scottish glens/ highlands. Can ride on sandy paths and very little sticks.

Have tried a few Muc Off lubes as Lidl always had them on discount. The yellow (dry) one gunked up the jockey wheels and the wet one just turned into a black sticky mess within half a ride. Also foolishly tried the expensive ceramic road one but that was just as bad.
The original pink Muc Off is also famous for making a mess of anodised or raw finishes. Tubeless sealant (fitted by bike shop not me) was too thick to seal small holes and was a glittery messy pita to clean out of the tyres. To be fair their spray chain cleaner is pretty decent for the price.

Hmmm interesting … note that I am talking about the wet MOTORCYCLE lube not the drip on cycle lube. Not sure how formulations compare. This stuff …

https://muc-off.com/products/wet-ch...MI_5PnnaLMiQMVq5NQBh1I_QSvEAQYASABEgL0xfD_BwE

Over the last 40 years I’ve tried just about every oil, but this really does seem to extend the life of chains

 

[2manyoranges]

Woodland, sandy costal paths and Scottish glens/ highlands. Can ride on sandy paths and very little sticks.

Have tried a few Muc Off lubes as Lidl always had them on discount. The yellow (dry) one gunked up the jockey wheels and the wet one just turned into a black sticky mess within half a ride. Also foolishly tried the expensive ceramic road one but that was just as bad.
The original pink Muc Off is also famous for making a mess of anodised or raw finishes. Tubeless sealant (fitted by bike shop not me) was too thick to seal small holes and was a glittery messy pita to clean out of the tyres. To be fair their spray chain cleaner is pretty decent for the price.

We used pink mucoff sealant in the Grom’s enduro bike … and following the usual tyre-Welsh slate interaction it completely failed to seal a 4mm slit. It did however successfully cover a large area of Welsh mountain with pink fluid. I think Effing useless compared with Stan’s and Effetto latex…note that this result was different from the on line reviews, which showed that it was fine at sealing large screwdriver induced holes. Our infield experience was very different to the in-workshop experience.

I apologise to the pine martens and roe deer for the profanities issued on the day whilst grappling with getting an inner tube into the rear tyre …

 

[clubby]

Over the last 40 years I’ve tried just about every oil, but this really does seem to extend the life of chains

Some products just suit your particular riding conditions. Could well be my preferred one will be useless where you live. There’s just so much choice that’s it’s difficult to decide these days. I’ve came to the conclusion over the years just to stick to one. Even when you think it’s cleaned, mixing lubes just causes problems.

 

[benjabbi]

+1 for Muc-Off chain lubes and tyre sealant going straight in the bin.
Currently using Finish Line Ceramic Wax which is clean in use and does it's job but doesn't last that long, maybe 50-60 miles, there's no black gunk though so can live with that I think.