Carlton of some description....?? Help appreciated!!

[LikeClockwork]

Got this frame in a job lot of stuff, difficult to tell from the pics, but there is the shadow of a Carlton shaped headbadge, plus the wrap over stays point to the same make, from what I know of them. Any ideas, does the frame number help at all? Looks as if it may have originally been a metallic red colour....??

Thanks for any help.

 

[Midlife]

Headbadge holes remind me of a Sun. Carlton holes were horizontal. I'll have a think about old red ones, the nipple on the BB puts it before my time lol. Sixties Snipe variant?

 

[LikeClockwork]

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Aha, thank you! Sun, of course, hadn't thought of that as an option. Does the frame number help at all in that case...??

I will research Sun Snipe, etc.

 

[keithglos]

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That has a Raleigh headset and bottom bracket cup. so 26 threads per inch.
Looks like a Worksop frame (W), so probably badged Carlton, they were also Sun and BSA.

Keith

 

[Midlife]

Sun Worksop head badge , from a Snipe I think..

 

[Midlife]

This sort of thing..

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/sun-s ... us.162392/

 

[LikeClockwork]

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Thanks chaps, that's really helpful info! Presume it has no real value as it's been resprayed? (I won't be keeping it as it's far too big for me...)

 

[allenh]

Flamboyant red was a colour Sun used on the Snipe variants and apart from the rear brake cable guide it looks a lot like THIS one I did a few years ago

 

[bertinjim]

I believe the W before the serial indicates when the frame was built. It likely means a 1966 -67 period build. After 1972, a W would indicate Worksop as the build site as an N would indicate Nottingham or an R would indicate Canada.

 

[LikeClockwork]

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Thanks for all the help and pointers guys. Going to put it up for sale, or more likely donate to the local charity cycle place; it's too big for me and therefore not worth me restoring for myself.

Sounds as if it's a good enough frame to be worth someone else having a go though!