Hi all,
Just introducing myself. I recently picked up a rare BMW Q6.S XTR mainly because I like unusual stuff. Very similar to the Whyte PRST 1 front end, but with a few neat features. Partly going into detail because BMW are rubbish at publishing full specs and the below is a bit of a brain dump for future collectors or others interested in this bike. Some of the info may be an “afaik”
Produced since 1999 the Q6.S XT was later released as Q6.S XTR sometime in the early 2000s, which had some notable changes;
Frame: hardened Aluminium, with folding mechanism. Has “reaction free” rear frame by having pivot above the Bottom Bracket
Stem: ITM Millennium CNC aluminium
Seat post: ITM Millennium CNC aluminium
Flat Bars: ITM Millennium Ergal 7075 Ultra Lite
Wheels: Taurus Clincher 26” Rims
Front Hub: Quick release DT Swiss Hugi 240 (forged aluminium with sealed bearings) standard 100mm width
Rear Hub: Quick release DT Swiss Hugi 240 (forged aluminium with sealed bearings and ultra-reliable 18T patented star ratchet freewheel) standard 135mm width
Front Shock: Paioli shock 100mm travel, with remote rebound adjuster (on top tube)
Front Forks: These (like bmw motorcycles) are mainly only there to transmit steering forces. No damping or springs inside.
Rear Shock: Paioli shock 100mm travel, with rebound adjustment
Saddle: Selle Italia with BMW logo embroidered
Tyres: OEM fitment was Continental 26x2.1
Chain set: Shimano XTR
Cassette: Shimano XTR M953 : 9 speed (revised version with 5 rather than 4 spider supports) 12-34T
Derailleur: Shimano XTR RD-M953 Rapid Rise
Brakes: Magura Louise hydraulic disc brakes with 160mm rotors
Pedals: Shimano SPD PD-M545
Claimed weight: 28.5lbs or 12.9kg (will weigh it myself too)
With a huge price tag (£5,300 in japan, probably less in Europe), unconventional looks, BMW patented Telever front end and “only” 100mm of travel, the biking community was never going to be a hit with the masses. Nowadays it would be called a XC bike, whereas at the time I suspect longer travel, fatter adjustable conventional forks were more fashionable.
My plans for this bike are to turn it into a swiss-army knife of a bike (because who doesn’t love MacGyver?).
Hidden tools (Pedro’s Tulio Quick release multi-tool), pump (Topeak Ninja) and puncture repair kit all ready to install.
Mods are likely to be a stiffer spring for the front shock (will probably have to use a mini moto shock spring) and perhaps 54T star ratchet for the rear hub or integrated carbon bar/stem. Could easily mod to a 27.5”, but would probably need a 1.9” on the rear, so won’t bother.
Will share some pics in due course
If you’re still reading, this is the geek out bit:
I understand these bikes were made by Schauff bikes in Germany. A well-established family run German company that specialises in hand made bikes and tandems and they are the place to go should you need parts support (rather than BMW), although 20 years on I would have my fingers crossed. The only part I think are critical to be able to obtain is the lower ball joint on the front fork, although I’ve seen some well used examples still on the same joints and believe they’re likely over engineered. These threaded ball joints have a makers stamp on them (I later found out was an owl in a triangle) that I tracked down to being a LEMFÖRDER product (no luck sourcing from them as they make steering/suspension parts for vehicles and couldn’t reach the right person), so instead bought a whole fork assembly and front shock from Schauff just in case. I guess the fork may be assembled by Paioli, but tried contacting them but seems they’re more interested in motorcycles and scooters nowadays. These are made from unobtainium and I want to ride it without fear ruining a collectable bike.
Well done for reading this far, hope you found it interesting and useful for future peeps stumbling upon this.
Just introducing myself. I recently picked up a rare BMW Q6.S XTR mainly because I like unusual stuff. Very similar to the Whyte PRST 1 front end, but with a few neat features. Partly going into detail because BMW are rubbish at publishing full specs and the below is a bit of a brain dump for future collectors or others interested in this bike. Some of the info may be an “afaik”
Produced since 1999 the Q6.S XT was later released as Q6.S XTR sometime in the early 2000s, which had some notable changes;
Frame: hardened Aluminium, with folding mechanism. Has “reaction free” rear frame by having pivot above the Bottom Bracket
Stem: ITM Millennium CNC aluminium
Seat post: ITM Millennium CNC aluminium
Flat Bars: ITM Millennium Ergal 7075 Ultra Lite
Wheels: Taurus Clincher 26” Rims
Front Hub: Quick release DT Swiss Hugi 240 (forged aluminium with sealed bearings) standard 100mm width
Rear Hub: Quick release DT Swiss Hugi 240 (forged aluminium with sealed bearings and ultra-reliable 18T patented star ratchet freewheel) standard 135mm width
Front Shock: Paioli shock 100mm travel, with remote rebound adjuster (on top tube)
Front Forks: These (like bmw motorcycles) are mainly only there to transmit steering forces. No damping or springs inside.
Rear Shock: Paioli shock 100mm travel, with rebound adjustment
Saddle: Selle Italia with BMW logo embroidered
Tyres: OEM fitment was Continental 26x2.1
Chain set: Shimano XTR
Cassette: Shimano XTR M953 : 9 speed (revised version with 5 rather than 4 spider supports) 12-34T
Derailleur: Shimano XTR RD-M953 Rapid Rise
Brakes: Magura Louise hydraulic disc brakes with 160mm rotors
Pedals: Shimano SPD PD-M545
Claimed weight: 28.5lbs or 12.9kg (will weigh it myself too)
With a huge price tag (£5,300 in japan, probably less in Europe), unconventional looks, BMW patented Telever front end and “only” 100mm of travel, the biking community was never going to be a hit with the masses. Nowadays it would be called a XC bike, whereas at the time I suspect longer travel, fatter adjustable conventional forks were more fashionable.
My plans for this bike are to turn it into a swiss-army knife of a bike (because who doesn’t love MacGyver?).
Hidden tools (Pedro’s Tulio Quick release multi-tool), pump (Topeak Ninja) and puncture repair kit all ready to install.
Mods are likely to be a stiffer spring for the front shock (will probably have to use a mini moto shock spring) and perhaps 54T star ratchet for the rear hub or integrated carbon bar/stem. Could easily mod to a 27.5”, but would probably need a 1.9” on the rear, so won’t bother.
Will share some pics in due course
If you’re still reading, this is the geek out bit:
I understand these bikes were made by Schauff bikes in Germany. A well-established family run German company that specialises in hand made bikes and tandems and they are the place to go should you need parts support (rather than BMW), although 20 years on I would have my fingers crossed. The only part I think are critical to be able to obtain is the lower ball joint on the front fork, although I’ve seen some well used examples still on the same joints and believe they’re likely over engineered. These threaded ball joints have a makers stamp on them (I later found out was an owl in a triangle) that I tracked down to being a LEMFÖRDER product (no luck sourcing from them as they make steering/suspension parts for vehicles and couldn’t reach the right person), so instead bought a whole fork assembly and front shock from Schauff just in case. I guess the fork may be assembled by Paioli, but tried contacting them but seems they’re more interested in motorcycles and scooters nowadays. These are made from unobtainium and I want to ride it without fear ruining a collectable bike.
Well done for reading this far, hope you found it interesting and useful for future peeps stumbling upon this.