Bike Collecting Article - NY Times

Ductape":5jviyy96 said:
...get your characters correct before trashing anybody too much.

I'm not trying to 'trash' anyone, sincerely, just staing a clearly defined opinion in response to a question from feetabix:

Doesn't the article describe most of us?....

And I don't think it does. I'd wager that the majority of RetroBike users don't have extensive high-end collections of bicycle 'art'. I suspect it's more likely that they ride mid to high-end level mass production bikes, the main point being that they get ridden. Sure, quite a few collect bikes and don't ride them, and fair play to them. It's up to the individual after all, as the_duke rightly points out. With regards to my comment about drafting at night, I wouldn't (and didn't) claim that the drafting event in question is the actual version of events, just that it doesn't give the best impression of someone representing retrobikers on the 'net, not that anyone needs to be holier than thou. But as with virtually everything out there on the web, I'm perfectly happy to be proved that there may be many sides to the story. I don't want to come across as someone trying to hit a raw nerve, so genuine apologies if I've annoyed anyone out there.

pete_mcc":5jviyy96 said:
Museums are filled with stuff like that; ever been to the Science Museum, the Smithsonian, the Design Centre museum?

If a bicycle is just a bicycle then why own any more than one, why buy expensive old parts when new is obviously better? Why visit a website like this when they are just a means of transport and not anything special?

It's a compelling argument indeed. For me, it's as much about the practical function as it as about the ineffable bond between the machines and myself, but as much as I cherish them and respect the engineering, my bikes aren't works of art. To me, that is. We are all different, indeed.

Dr S":5jviyy96 said:
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18 months ago I saw Concorde sat in a museum hanger. I was actually moved to tears to see it sat there. There it was, one of the most beautiful icons of the 20th century, sat doing nothing, destined never to take to the skies again. A terrible fate for such a machine.

Another compelling point. I live in a city, along with the_duke, where the very last flight of any Concorde was ended. It came home, having been built here in Bristol in the '70s by workers and engineers that included many members of my own family. The pride in an astonishing piece of engineering that just to look at is breathtaking is palpable here. But we don't have a museum for 'our' Concorde. It sits on the apron parked up since 2003 when it landed, literally rotting away exposed to the elements, like a bike you might see on eBay - neglected on the one hand, yet still cherished on the other. It's as if the city doesn't want to let it go to a better home, but doesn't want to find the £10m+ needed to house it for the future. That has resonance with most RetroBike users, I'm sure. Having a Smithsonian type museum full of bicycles may well be a daydream for some of us, along with a Jay Leno size car-hangar, but the reality is of compromise - the majority aren't at that level and aren't that interested, or fanatical. There are other interests in life, other influences that take time and energyaway from this hobby.

Just like with Concorde here in Bristol, life is about compromise - financially, logistically and above all emotionally. In summary, I don't think most of us are as obsessive as we might be portrayed, or as we indeed see ourselves.
 
The link to bikesnobnyc is absolutely priceless! Having lived, worked and cycled in NYC I can fully sympathise with the blogger. Mr 'Upper West Side' just says it all ..... !!
 
2 points.

- Noah J Gellner (bushpig) was not the one drafting, that was the hipster, try as he might Noah is not a hipster.

- Noah rides his bikes, this is not a museum he is running in his flat, he does 'curate' an online kind of museum (see tastydirty.com), and he is fanatical about Cunninghams, but he also for the most part is a cyclist and rides his bikes.
 
“Do you ride your Picasso? Your Mondrian?” he asked. “No, I hang it on the wall. These are pieces of history.”
They're bicycles, not paintings.[/quote]

I've seen enough photos of Mr Bushpig's bikes in a dirty state to know he is a rider as well as collector. My distain was aimed at the guy in the article with the above quote, not at Noah. Mr Bushpig is actually setting a sound example in that these highly prized bikes can be enjoyed as intended as well as appreciated as fine art.

Just thought I would clear things up a little.

Si
 
Rod_Saetan":5mk82n53 said:
2 points.

- Noah J Gellner (bushpig) was not the one drafting, that was the hipster, try as he might Noah is not a hipster.

- Noah rides his bikes, this is not a museum he is running in his flat, he does 'curate' an online kind of museum (see tastydirty.com), and he is fanatical about Cunninghams, but he also for the most part is a cyclist and rides his bikes.

Yep - just to clarify on my part, my comment wasn't aimed at him. Apologies if I wasn't clear enough initially.
 
good article , but i dont see the point of the follow on posts
if folk want to collect stuff and keep it un-used thats thier choice
tho i understand that they should be used
all my bikes get ridden properly at some point ,tho some more than others , because i like some more ,however if i do a nos cat spec build i'm reluctant to get it all scratched and manky
 
mikee":2yqi45am said:
good article , but i dont see the point of the follow on posts

Because I don't want to be labelled as a geek, snob or call myself a curator of a collection. So I don't feel that article represents most users on here, even as cool as the collections and individuals may be.
 
It doesn't say in the article that that gentleman no longer rides, he merely points out the bikes he is not riding are, to him, works of art and thus not to be exposed to wear and tear.

I had a road bike that, if I ever got it back, I would never ride again but would keep due to its sentimental value.

One or two mountain bikes I have had might get the occasional trundle but nothing more challenging were I to regain them.

Some things attain significance beyond the intention apparent in their crafting. Their importance may be esoteric and quite ethereal.

Beautiful bikes are certainly amongst those things.

I have all my ex partners stuffed and mounted in my cellar.
 
but like as not ,if you are into this nonsence to the extent that you know
the differance between m900 and m730 or machine tech and kalloy
to an outsider you/me are geeks ,you may not be a bike snob ,thats a different issue
as for collections , what makes it a collection as opposed to a multitude of bikes ?
perhaps buying with a purpose , ie a correlation or connection between
bikes ,in my case e-stays and early full suss ,tho there are others in my shed there is still enough of a connection for me to buy them

am i a geek ?
 
I'm not sure Mikee, but I can say I'd rather be a geek than a Greek at the moment. :?
 
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