Beryl Burton's 1962 Bike Badge

[Breezin]

Thanks everyone for working toward this. An Eddy Soens it is.
Nailed it in five pages!
Yes, the bike next.

BTW, Otis snapped a quick pic of his Soens today. Definitely not Beryl's, and you can see it is a tad too small for 6'5" Otis.

 

[Breezin]

Hi Joe, looking at the pictures of Beryl on the Viking and Eddie Soens the bars appear to be the same with the bottom of the drops at a steep angle. Your Viking appears to have a different style of bar and drop stem, it's hard to see if Beryl used a drop stem in the pictures Just wondering the Viking is part of your beautiful museum collection why you have put it up for sale?

Apparently Beryl had her bars angled down 20 degrees or more for most her early career, until maybe 1966. After that she went with 10-15 degree slope. I don't see the bar and stem on our 1963 Viking as different as on her 1962 Soens, could be one and the same, just transferred over. Our Viking's stem angles down toward the front at 5 degrees or more. It's a Cinelli brazed steel stem with Cinelli #14 steel bars (I believe that's the number).

The eBay posting you saw is from before Marin Museum of Bicycling acquired the bike. We have no intention of selling it.

 

[vcballbat]

Apparently Beryl had her bars angled down 20 degrees or more for most her early career, until maybe 1966. After that she went with 10-15 degree slope. I don't see the bar and stem on our 1963 Viking as different as on her 1962 Soens, could be one and the same, just transferred over. Our Viking's stem angles down toward the front at 5 degrees or more. It's a Cinelli brazed steel stem with Cinelli #14 steel bars (I believe that's the number).

The eBay posting you saw is from before Marin Museum of Bicycling acquired the bike. We have no intention of selling it.

Hi Joe, stumbled across these bars by chance on eBay and reminded me of Beryl on the Soens and Viking, what you reckon

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17629550...iIhcVWxQfO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE
https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/classic_components/the-strata-engineering-company/

 

[Breezin]

Hi Joe, stumbled across these bars by chance on eBay and reminded me of Beryl on the Soens and Viking, what you reckon

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17629550...iIhcVWxQfO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=MORE
https://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/classic_components/the-strata-engineering-company/


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I'm missing the similarity bettween the two bars. Age appears about all in common. Material (alu vs. steel), forward reach are very different. Angle is only determined by how the bar is affixed in the stem.

 

[vcballbat]

I'm missing the similarity bettween the two bars. Age appears about all in common. Material (alu vs. steel), forward reach are very different. Angle is only determined by how the bar is affixed in the stem.

Looks like alloy with a much duller finish against the bright shining chrome stem. With the bottom of the bars at such a steep angle the top bend becomes more level rather than kicking up.

 

[Jesper]

Thanks to all for this interesting thread. A lot of information and details revealed that I was unaware of.
A note regarding the maps previously mentioned. I have the Italian map and it is quite good, but still a lot of builders not shown as I have been years in trying to document Italian companies and individuals involved with Italy's cycling industry, and I have 100s more not shown on the Italy map. I would assume that the other 2 maps will have similar shortcomings due to all of the small shops that were building frames "on the side" that were not known due to very small volume of frames made like my Henry Lloyd frame made by Mick "Chalky" Cziorka (estimated only about 3 dozen or less frames built); but I would still highly recommend them. I am getting the other 2 maps, as well as having my Italian map enlarged so that I can add to it. I am also making a detailed map of the Milano area to start with since so many builders were located in and around that municipality.