BB Fixed cup vs Record 1ton 4”vise

[Wingsonmyheels]

Fixed cup for the win!





2002 Galaxy picked up from Gumtree. Seatpin surrendered to the vise, handlebar stem surrendered to a hacksaw blade up the inside, BB non drive side (plastic) just crumbled. Fixed cup killed my vise. This galaxy has ceased to be good value…

 

[doctor-bond]

Youch! I use the same vice (have no recollection of where it came from) and am beginning to wonder if there are ‘old’ Record and ‘new’ Record vices - a bit like pre and post Trek Kleins?

 

[Wingsonmyheels]

I bought it 25 years ago. The current ones seem to be branded Irwin Record, not plain Record. Still selling much the same range of vices, with this workshop vice at the bottom end made of close grained grey iron, and engineers vices made of S. G. Ductile iron selling for 10 times as much...

I'll try with my massive adjustable spanner (if I've not got a conventional spanner that fits) and a lump hammer, after a good soaking in PlusGas. And buy a new vice I guess?

 

[doctor-bond]

Big adjustable and massive (*cough* garden fork) lever worked for me. Not pretty.

 

[bikeworkshop]

I bought it 25 years ago. The current ones seem to be branded Irwin Record, not plain Record. Still selling much the same range of vices, with this workshop vice at the bottom end made of close grained grey iron, and engineers vices made of S. G. Ductile iron selling for 10 times as much...

I'll try with my massive adjustable spanner (if I've not got a conventional spanner that fits) and a lump hammer, after a good soaking in PlusGas. And buy a new vice I guess?

I broke the workshop record 5" in the exact same manner. The jaw end made a dent in the concrete floor.
It was at least 20 years old.
I would recommend steel toecaps.

Its replacement has held up for 20 years so far.
I wonder if the material granulates over time.

I have matching levers.

Big adjustable and massive (*cough* garden fork) lever worked for me. Not pretty.

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So matching, I had to go and check mine hadn't been "borrowed"

I braised an upgrade to the older model (l) when I exceeded the maximum handle leverage limit...

Now it goes all the way

 

[bikeworkshop]

Big adjustable and massive (*cough* garden fork) lever worked for me. Not pretty.

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Perhaps the spade was the wrong way up

 

[doctor-bond]

Ahem. Yeah, it’s a left handed fork ….

 

[bikeworkshop]

A "left handed" fork,
And a "french" crescent wrench.

that's the chorus written for my country tune, just need the verse