And another dumb blonde sticks her foot in it.

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M-Power":2i2n04mq said:
Bit radical maybe but I would make it compulsory for all learner drivers to have to cycle around a busy city and narrow country roads for a month. Then they might understand the nature of poor road surfaces, weather conditions and the nature of other road users. It will make them much better drivers too.


This! I have always said that before you are given a motorbike or car licence you should have to complete a CBT \ basic driving course (obviously the CBT if you are getting a car licence and vice versa) and cycle for a few days. I think people would end up with a lot more respect for other road users.
 
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i think it sort used to happen though, i learnt to ride (properly) at school, they had a test called "keyrider" that you were put through at about 10 years old. the problem with most people is that they think bikes are toys so effectively grow out of them.

but yes, proving you can behave on the road it wouldn't be a bad thing if part of the test was being put in someonelses shoes. that problem with alot of these people is that they don't understand the issues that cyclists can face.
 
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jonnyboy666":2gjxagxe said:
i think it sort used to happen though, i learnt to ride (properly) at school, they had a test called "keyrider" that you were put through at about 10 years old. the problem with most people is that they think bikes are toys so effectively grow out of them.

but yes, proving you can behave on the road it wouldn't be a bad thing if part of the test was being put in someonelses shoes. that problem with alot of these people is that they don't understand the issues that cyclists can face.

Yeah, remember doing a cycling proficiency test at school when I was about 10. But I don't think it was compulsory for everyone - you only had to do it if you wanted to ride a bike to school.

Definitely agree about somehow finding a way to force motorists to understand a bit more what it's like to ride a bike on the road.

I moved from the Dutch speaking side of Belgium (where everyone cycles) to the French speaking side (where cycling is much less common). The difference in the level of respect and patience from drivers is sometimes shocking - and the design of cycle paths and other facilities is also much worse.
 
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M-Power said:
Bit radical maybe but I would make it compulsory for all learner drivers to have to cycle around a busy city and narrow country roads for a month. Then they might understand the nature of poor road surfaces, weather conditions and the nature of other road users. It will make them much better drivers too.
And how would that work for the disabled?

And what about the bad cyclists? They very visibly exist. Pavement riding,.No lights at night, RLJ, ad nauseam... should they be forced to drive a car for a month before being allowed to cycle?

These people were born as chumps, were chumps as kids and will be chumps as.pensioners. Their favoured mode of transport has nothing to do with them having the chump gene.
 
The bit that astounded me the most is that she said we should ride on perfectly good cycle tracks! She clearly hasn't been on a cycle track for the last few years or she would know they no longer exist.
 
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