98 Club Roost DH8, finished for now 9/10/10

[jimihendrix]

what size discs you gona use ? i'd go for at least 8" hope floaters but the frame does take a 9" rear

frames looking cool as chuff btw

Using Hope 203mm (8"), not floaters though, solid discs.

Got the fork legs built up and fitted thismorning, XT rear hub arrived, also bunged the seatpost in and fitted some Intense stickers.

Pretty light so far, feels like it's about 30lb

 

[big.eck]

am liking that i kinda wish i'd kept it now

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

Looking the Dawgs

Now get a pair 'o' these ordered

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=24596

G

 

[jimihendrix]

Looking the Dawgs

Now get a pair 'o' these ordered

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=24596

G

Got the leg protectors, just not fitted in the pics , going to be ordering these maybe later

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/marzocchi-shiver- ... 3c9ec01874

Next spend will be handlebars, rims, wheels built and tyres bought and fitted.
Rear caliper fits stright on with the Magura adaptor i bought but front is miles out so may need to start from scratch and make an adaptor from a bit of plate.

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

ask Gil if he could do some cammo stickers for the forks? :shock:

G

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

A week and nae updates 'o' this beast :roll:

G

 

[echihn]

Some stuff done during the week

Tweaked the paintjob, colours were too solid looking so i sponged it all over with Kaki green before going over it with enamel laquer, cant remember how many coats, lost count at six , got a full set of new bearings for the rear from a local engineering place, fitting was a simple case of knocking the old ones out and the new ones in, got the headset in and bolted the fork crowns in place, still waiting on fork seals to get the legs together, should have them tomorrow and get the forks built up over the weekend.

Here is the Shiver forks in bits, paid top money for these of E-bay and they turned out to be leaking (not mentioned in add), seller agreed to refund £50 for the cost of seals and oil so not so bad, though maybe i should have pushed for £90 as this is what most bike shops would charge for a seal and oil change.

They are simple things though, bottom nut off, top cap off and the whole lot comes apart (spilling oil everywhere), the main seal levers out (after taking off the spring clip), the long black things are the main bushes which just push out once the main seal is removed, superb, simple, stong design.

May try filling them with ATF after reading the "fork oil" thread.

ATF? may I ask for what purpose?

The best stuff to run in shiv's is 5 or 7.5 weight gold spectre. I found they dive going into corners etc with 5 unless you crank your compression on both legs a considerable amount, but once done, they are ultra smooth.

Also, best fix for shivers to fix the notorious noodle legs is to have a stainless or similar axle lathed out. Costs about 50$ plus labor US rate, so I'm thinking it will be comparable there also. A custom axle will make the shivers feel like your running some f1 or gism forks they are so stiff.

Lookin good on the frame Phil wood offers the best bearings on the market might I add, so if you ever wanna replace em all, they will have what you need.

 

[jimihendrix]

ATF? may I ask for what purpose?

The best stuff to run in shiv's is 5 or 7.5 weight gold spectre. I found they dive going into corners etc with 5 unless you crank your compression on both legs a considerable amount, but once done, they are ultra smooth.

Also, best fix for shivers to fix the notorious noodle legs is to have a stainless or similar axle lathed out. Costs about 50$ plus labor US rate, so I'm thinking it will be comparable there also. A custom axle will make the shivers feel like your running some f1 or gism forks they are so stiff.

Lookin good on the frame Phil wood offers the best bearings on the market might I add, so if you ever wanna replace em all, they will have what you need.

Aparently ATF is commonly used in Motorcycle forks, it's around 7 weight, does'nt foam, is easily available and is half the price of MTB fork oil.

The stainless axle sounds good, will see how they ride first though, they are my first set of Shivers and being totaly honest i have nether the skill or the bottle to use forks like these to their full potential

Got the bearings from a local supplier, they are SKF and turned out to be more expensive to replace than i thought, £68 for the eight with a discount :shock:

Cheers for the compliment , pretty pleased with the way it's going so far, waiting on new bars and stickers for the forks this week but progress has slowed due to the car needing work for it's MOT next month :roll: , will update when there is more progress

 

[echihn]

The thing is these are not mx forks that utilize steels rather than aluminum and plastics. Atf will ultimately put more wear on a set of shivers than proper oil. 15 bucks for a quart of golden spectre.... and that will last you 2 changes... and shivers can go a good while btw changes.


Id only run specific new tech oils like gs in em. They will perform better and last longer


To add... shivers do leak, as with all inverted or usd forks. It is fairly common and doent mean seals are bad. Just gotta pay attention to how much oil is coming out.

Id replace All of the bolts with grade 10 stainless which u can find at decent hardware stores. It will help stiffen the forks up abd also guarantee you never strip a bolt (shiver axle clamps are notorious as you can crank em down pretty tight. In fact. You must crank em tight as the clamps are the only thn holding the axle in unlike newer type forks which ise threaded axle caps like 888s.


Make sure the 2 upper c clups that basically hold the lowers and wheel in. Are in good shape for obvious reasons.

To add... generally you don't touch the bolts on base of axle clamps til after the forks are broken down. Avoids breaking and stripping out the internals if done last.


Let me know if you ever have issues with the shivers and ill be glad to help.

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

If you were tempted with the new axel, I would go for one too bud , even though as you said, I wouldnt put them to the levels of extreme that would need a custom axel, but like the bling idea of it

G