cracking bikes, iv'e had mine for over a year got it through the c2w scheme use it all year round for commuting and rides with mates, ive not had any problems other than lots of flats so changed the tyres for some smart sams not had a single flat since, i do a lot of single track and fire roads with it and find when i ride it i always say to myself why do i need a mountain bike ? the only down side is for really steep climbs the gearing is hard to turn and keep traction with the skinny tyres but with practice you master the balance of power traction and your riding position , plus the look of some mtb'rs faces when you whizz past on a "road bike" is priceless and on the debate of the cheaper one compared to this my brother has the blue cdf and always says he should of went for the croix although the weight difference is minimal the quality of components is noticeable and hes looking to upgrade the brakes and drive train already.