I have just taken off my manitou and replcaced with my carbon rigid forks and saved 270 grams I also have some carbon rigid forks coming that are 130 grams lighter than my current ones so when I have sprayed the lower half and faded them to match my frame (leaving lots of carbon on show)they will be fitted and then we will have a grand totalof 17.65 lbs,and that will be the best I can do also I have replaced both chris king crown races with titanium split ones for a few more gram saved