1988 Brodie Romax

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I own an 88’ Brodie climbMax c/w gatorblade. It’s a beautiful brodie IMHO. As is my tendency, I’m always thinking of ways to improve on my stable without taking on more bikes. If I’m only going to own one brodie I need a fillet brazed frame right?

Right.

One other nigel with my climbMax is the size, it’s border line too big. Never really bothered me, it does not feel too big when I ride it and actually fits quite well but the idea of finding a next size down frame would be another plus.

At the swap meet last May a fillet brazed climbMax (rare to see) with a P2 fork was up for grabs, size 18” and I snoozed, just was not ready to fork out the cash that day and I’ve been kicking myself ever since (as have others I know) it was a more than fare price.

If finding a fillet brazed brodie frame, frame/fork or even complete bike is an ambition to have, living in BC is a plus for sure, they are not coming on the market often even in these parts. I’ve made a few contacts in recent years within the collecting community and put feelers out recently to several of them.

Well, my main man Retro_Roy came through this weekend. An 87’ romax c/w matching fork was reluctantly sold to me from one of Roy’s buddies.

The reason this frame/fork was sitting unused is that it has some pretty nasty chain suck damage. More than likely the chainstay will need replacing but finding a matching tube has apparently become very difficult lately. I’m in contact with a former Rocky Mountain welder that recently joined our riding group to look at all options. I may still reach out to Paul, he’s pretty busy I hear and fully out of correct Tange chainstays though.

I think the yellow/red fade is quite lovely and there is a good chance I will end up with this colour combo in the end. Solid red or solid yellow are two other colour choices I’ll consider, The frame and fork need a full re-spray though, there are far too many rust spots and chips for some simple touch ups. The drive side BB cup required my bench vise to remove, there was a stem wedge stuck pretty good in the fork steerer now removed.

So my climbMax frame and gatorblade will be on the market at some point to help fund this build and all parts off the climbMax moved over to the romax.

Below are some photos of the frame fork as received and after some sanding of chainstay issues, removal of some surface rust from the chainstay bridge and stays, so far no pin holes.

Further below are pics of a quick mock up I did this morning, yep, she’s my dream vintage MTB already 😍

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Oh @Canuckbiker this is going to be another cracker of a thread.

Looks to be a great project and there's no doubt you'll be pulling off another great resto.

Great to have contacts like @Retro_Roy to hand to help you find your dream machine.

Looking forward to seeing this being brought back to life so it can be ridden and enjoyed again. :cool: 💪
 
Wow that’s a really special one. You must be so excited!
Was there a cut-off year when Paul moved over to TIG welding for all frames? And/or were the fillet braized frames a special order?
I think it looks great with the U-brake - gives the seat stays and rear end a very clean look.
Looking forward to seeing the build progress.
 
Wow that’s a really special one. You must be so excited!
Was there a cut-off year when Paul moved over to TIG welding for all frames? And/or were the fillet braized frames a special order?
I think it looks great with the U-brake - gives the seat stays and rear end a very clean look.
Looking forward to seeing the build progress.
I'll try my best to be accurate here :)

Paul introduced the second tier climbMax early on, 1987 I believe. Less labour intensive than the fillet brazing process. Other TIG welded models followed.

For many collectors the fillet brazed romax is the ulimate brodie frame to own, it is for me at least. I have learned that some early climbMax frames were also fillet brazed (very few I think), I'm not sure the story here as romaxes and climbMax's shared the same geometry, at some point romaxes were built with Tange Prestige and climbMaxes were built with heavier Tange MTB tubing but they were very similar frames to my knowledge so typically the TIG welding vs fillet brazing was a way to tell them apart.

Here is a screen shot of a post Paul made which provides some detail on romax frames:

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I think the last of the fillet brazed romaxes were made in 1990, possibly 1991, please feel free to chime in, others, if any of my recollections are inaccurate :)

Oh, looks like I'll be making a thread title change, Paul just replied to my question earlier today, my frame # 278 was built January 8th, 1988 :cool:👍
 
if it helps your timeline any i have a fillet brazed climbmax serial number 404
that was built july 4 1988. means 126 frames were built in 7 months.
 
Dropped the frame off with a welder/machinist who used to work at Rocky Mountain starting in the 90s, he’d joined us on our weekly Pitt River ride a couple weeks ago.

We both agreed to avoid a full chainstay replacement, he feels confident a repair can be made which will avoid this. I’d rather try this first and if eventually the full stay needed replacing so be it. The fillet brazing on this frame is a work of art and I want the chainstay saved if at all possible.

He’s a great addition to our group in many ways, dude has great stories and great skills 😁

His garage/shop is nicely set up with a old lathe which was used at Rocky BITD and few other goodies along with some pretty cool old frames:

A Derek Bailey built tricycle he made in 1974 when he worked for Roberts in England

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A Derek Bailey built road frame, a one off I believe, unusual looking, the frame was made this way to achieve an ultra short chainstay length, the rear brake caliper mounts on the bottom of the “L” shaped seat/down tube :cool: and lathe below

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A few others including a suspension prototype in the middle

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Some sweet steel frames

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Overall, a great night 😁
 
Hey, it's not what you know, but who. I hope he can rescue this super cool frame. I used to go to Toby over at UFO for this sort of work. Don't know if he's still around.
 

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