I've had Manitou FS1,2,3,4, DH with the EFC and also Marin FRS Pine (1993), Team 1993 and 1995 and Ti FRS: 1993: 3 or 4 frames, 1 full bike another 1994 and another 1994 frame, I erm have an addiction to FRS' and Manitou'. Now to answer your question, Doug B licensed Manitou design to Answer...