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  1. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Good points, well made and firmly noted. I'm a great believer in K.I.S.S I had been pondering how oaklecs different forks changed the geometry of his bike. I like the idea of using the original forks. I think the rake looks funky and isnt really to my tastes but I think the white paint...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    I've just found the pedals I had changed onto the bike at the same time I bought it, along with the multitool and my old faithful Elite water bottle cage in black with gold splatter......
  3. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Ok makes sense. I've just pulled the forks and dealt with the crown race, None of the nuts, races or seats were really what you could call tight. I use a length of brass stock as a drift and couple of sharp taps did for all of it. A couple of broken balls in each set of bearings! Headtube...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Hiya, thanks for the detailed answers. Could you explain what you mean regarding the frame having 1 1/8" headset? I thought it was 1" for quill stem types? I've seen some aheadset adapters but they're all quite ugly solutions that ruin the look of the cockpit. I wont be doing any d/h mtb...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Yes, so do I. That and your lovely blue resto. Interesting take on the weight issue. Noted and will do my best to weigh parts as I go along. I notice both sets of forks in your blue bike photos bracket the shape of mine. Your blue forks look 'MTB' and your black forks look 'ROAD' Guess mine...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    I thought so....... I think I can engineer a solution to the headset as far as the crown race but, thinking about it, if I'm going to replace the HS and BB is it worth leaving them in to protect the frame threads from the blasting media and powder coat?
  7. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Hi guys, I managed to get The Pagan into the shed for an hour this afternoon... Noticed some nasty rust that has blown the paint off.... Then started stripping her down.... I dont think I have the tools to remove the headset and bottom bracket so I stopped there and examined the...
  8. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Thanks chaps! Ooh paint! Now there's a thought......
  9. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Hi Big Cheese, Thanks for the info that is fantastic stuff! That yellow bike is exactly the kind of vibe I was envisioning. Hmm plenty of food for thought here. Yes I guess technology has moved on but the basics of bicycle operation remain the same. So I need to make a plan, will wash and...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Hi Peachy, Looks like you've been down this road a few times before....... wow. Well I do have a soft spot for the old bike but to be honest I would like to modernise and lighten her, where it would be practical and sensible. Let's be frank, technology has moved on massively in the last 30...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Great, I'm off to do some research then.....
  12. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Ok that sounds like a great idea. How does one go about doing something like that? I'm always up for forum searching a subject so the bar/brakes info will be good to dig through. How does having cantilever brake bosses affect things? I guess I cant easily change the fork, due to both the...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Great stuff chaps super inspiring! So get some nice newer wheels with 130mm hubs and fit that Shimano 14-34T then choose a suitable front sprocket/crankset for slowly spinning up horrible hills. If I want drops I need the right brakes and probably bar end shifters? The bike currently has...
  14. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Lol dont worry, this frame and I have history, yes its heavy but its comfy and looks good I'm happy to put some time and effort into it. I seem to remember looking at this back in 2015 and decided to ride as it was. The state it's in now I need to replace so much I might as well build what I...
  15. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Sweet. So modern road hubs. Presumably I wont find 26" wheels built on road hubs so will need to get some made?
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Ok, that's great info thanks very much. Where is that measurement taken? I've just measured and the distance between the inside faces of the rear dropouts is 130mm.
  17. Jaffa

    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Yep an 80s hybrid....... That's a cool concept. I know this is based on a modern aluminium hybrid bike but a simple change of parts transforms it into just about the kind if thing I'm envisioning with this old Claud Butler: Standing back and looking at my frame I really like it. Utilitarian...
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Lol yes kinda, except its mechanicals are rusty and need updating plus I do like the aesthetic of thin tyred, drop bar retro gravel ride. Thinking about it what I need is ideas for updating the drive train to get the spinniest gear I possibly can plus bars and shifter tips.
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    1989 Claud Butler Pagan. Gravelly Rebuild?

    Hi all, yet ANOTHER Dave here.... I bought a 1989 Claud Butler Pagan, in Reynolds 500, brand new in 1990 and I still own it. Its had a fairly easy life spending many years relegated to the shed by a long line of "better" more modern main bikes. Somewhen in 2014 I found myself without a main...
  20. Jaffa

    1989 - Claud Butler Pagan - Rebuilt

    Re: Make: Claud Butler Model: Pagan (Model 989) download/file.php?id=166904 Model Year: 1989 Colurscheme: Aqua Blue & White Frame: Reynolds 500 All Terrain - (Lugged) "A strong and durable set utilising plain guage chrome molybendium tubing for the economically priced all terrain bicycle" -...
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