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After mothballing my '97/8 Kili last year due to regretting lacquering the polished frame, I was left with a Saracen itch to scratch. My first decent MTB was a '96 Hardtrax which was stolen - crap, but a Rolls Royce to my 12 year old self. I have fond memories of the Ritchey Z-Max amber wall...

Re: Little update on the Magical Mystery Kili then.. I dropped Saracen an email with the serial number from the frame in an effort to pinpoint exactly what this started life as. There's a slim chance I might get something useful - Kona have given me an obscure seatpost size in the past. Both...

Re: Any Lava Dome is worth the effort in my opinion! I can't help you with the kids though - have you tried the classifieds? :wink:

Re: I think effective top tube will be about 22" - I'm usually happy with around 23" but it should still be OK, especially for a more chuckable bike for shorter rides. I'm thinking suspension forks for this - that will give me a bit more top tube - I've got some unknown Rockshox from the...

Re: Thanks Coomber. That's more or less what I picked it up for when you factor in the value of the other bits that came with it! I'd take the steel versions over it any day, but it will be cool to have some aluminium in the stable. Thought it would be lighter though - the Easton Elan Kona...

Re: He said he'd been on here to identify it, but I couldn't find anything.. I had a feeling someone here would recognise it! It's touch and go as to whether it's going to fit - I'm 5'10" - so if it's not for me I know where to find you.

Re: You mean on separate listings? Sorry to spoil your fun then! I think it was a bargain since the guy wasn't 100% sure what it was. Oddly he mentioned to me it might be a Saracen but didn't put it in the listing. I got quite lucky identifying it myself; I wasn't aware there was an...

Re: I suppose I probably would have liked one back then, but now I know better! Still, I've got loads of lovely heat treated steel already and the price was right. The 853 Kilis look great, always fancied one myself!

Re: Here it is in 1997 Kili Pro regalia from the catalogue. I'd much rather have the 853 version though, did you want to swap? Nothing has changed since 1997 I promise, steel is old hat and everyone wants the stiffest aluminium frame available.. :P

So here is my latest acquisition, a Saracen Kili frame from either 1997 or 1998! I bought this as an unknown frame from eBay, but suspected it was a Saracen from a bit of Google research. There were some generic frames around the time that were very similar, but I'm 99% sure this is the...

Re: Think I could have answered my own question here - subject edited since forks are now for sale. Had thought I'd have to cover costs of finding what I needed at FleeceBay prices, but it looks like I've now sourced a later disc TB fork for a reasonable price. I'm therefore pricing in the...

Re: Right, I've had several private messages regarding potentially selling these so I thought taking offers might be appropriate.. Is this in keeping with the forum rules? Should I repost in the for sale section? I don't want to profiteer but I need enough funds to cover non-threaded TB P2s...

Re: Okay, last clean photos.. After this it's going to look like nothing ever happened! :-) https://flic.kr/p/VK5oxX https://flic.kr/p/UE5KAu https://flic.kr/p/VK5p7x https://flic.kr/p/UE5PSW

Re: A few pictures of the build in progress: The miracle of 1990s mass production and obseletion - £6: https://flic.kr/p/Vm2jXd Bearing surfaces in acceptable to great condition. Note the difference between the well sealed rear hub, which takes most stress, and the basic front hub...

Re: Ah, I didn't know that! Are the touch up pens OK?

Re: So here it is, the finished article - give or take some gear tweaking: https://flic.kr/p/UFMnVX Looking pretty good for the princely sum of £25! https://flic.kr/p/Vk9fyq https://flic.kr/p/VVieg8 https://flic.kr/p/VVieg8 https://flic.kr/p/VEATsw https://flic.kr/p/VRRoeE...

Re: Ah, so I'm looking at downgraded wheels? More fettled than I thought perhaps then.. Anyway, a little progress has been made today - I stripped the bike down and had a little tinker with my brand new second hand parts washer: https://flic.kr/p/Ve9KdL Weighing the frame and forks...

Re: Hmm, thanks! The original (175g) bars are intact - I will have to torque up the stem sympathetically if I'm not already half way to an expensive dental treatment! The bike has Altus hubs with Rigida rims - probably an improvement over Quando I would imagine? The wheelset seems heavy...

Hi All, This is my first thread so be gentle! I'm a long time lurker and MTB aficionado, but so far I've only attempted to sell a pair of forks on Retrobike. The subject of this topic is my rather handsome 1996 Diamondback Apex, picked up from the classifieds recently because it was 'too good...

Re: Bump! Did I mention these weigh <850g?