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Re: Re: They're completely different frames. The Adrian Timmis bike is a metal matrix and Ti tubed bike from 92-93 and Adrian's one is an all steel bike from the first year of Dynatech production in 1990.

Might be worth posting in the following thread, there's a few macretro members up your way that might be interested. viewtopic.php?f=29&t=78855&start=5070

Re: Probably not advisable to tell too many people that you're an "SS purist" :lol:

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Re: What tubing is the frame made from Clubby? They didn't get an old batch of tubes from Chris Chance did they? :lol: strange for a modern frame to fail like that though.

Re: Re: That's a bit harsh Rob, I think Clubby was just trying to help :lol:

There's also the small matter of Kona being formed in 1988, therefore there are no 1987 Cindercones around. But definitely 1990 and not all that rare as he's claiming, certainly not £1100 worth of rare!

Re: Well for one, that's a 1990 model. The BS some folk write in eBay ads is quite embarrassing at times, however it's not clear if the seller is just misinformed or trying to pull a fast one. Given the asking price I suspect the latter though, truly shameful imo. I bought one a couple years...

No problem. They changed things in 91 to make the Dyna-Tech branding more prominent, rather than having the large Raleigh decal on the downtube. I prefer the 90 decals to the later years tbh. I think they were trying to get away from the traditional image of the solid dependable (but maybe not...

It's definitely from 1990 and was called the "Team" as far as I remember. Same frame as my Mission and the Odyssey but full XC Pro. We had one as the shop bike when I worked at the Hawick Cycle Centre as a lad.

The Raleigh White Lightnin used 653 All Terrain tubing in 91.

Re: Sachs brakes I've got a few Neos bits too I've been slowly acquiring. I plan on building a couple bikes with Sachs groupsets one day. Just need to keep looking as the parts you're after will pop up eventually.

Re: Sachs brakes The Chainset and canti's hardly ever come up. They were only made for a couple years so not many round anyway.

Re: Sachs brakes They're rarer than hens teeth but there's not the same demand as for other groupsets. Took me nearly two years to amass a full Quarz groupset, some bargains and some not so much lol.

Re: They're Quarz levers btw Jim.

They had a Titanium handlebar, that was the only Ti bit on them. There was a large "Titanium" decal in the bars so think that's why folks get confused. Definitely not a grand new either, nearer the £500 mark, he may be thinking of the Quantum which was £999 iirc and had a similar spec but a MT3...

Re: It'll be a 68mm shell but the axle length will depend on the chainset You're using. Take a look at Sheldon Brown's website for a guide to axle lengths for common chainsets.

The rear shifter will be indexed and the front will be friction only.

Re: I'm guessing those plums were some low hanging fruit to end up there! :shock:

Re: I'd say almost certainly a Formula. Someone please buy this and take that rack and lock off this A.S.A.P., they're making me wince looking at them on that bike! Pretty terrible pictures unfortunately to get a good look at it.