Wheres 'Ebay Madness' I've something to add

[KermitGKona88]

Meanwhile in another Universe completely...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplac...65162496","ftmd_400706":"111112l"}&__tn__=!:D

 

[incorrigible]

Meanwhile in another Universe completely...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/605722680958544/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking={"qid":"-5681762067083444323","mf_story_key":"36437043286847912","commerce_rank_obj":"{\"target_id\":36437043286847912,\"target_type\":6,\"primary_position\":18,\"ranking_signature\":5892227841965162496,\"commerce_channel\":501,\"value\":0.0001028341027739,\"upsell_type\":129,\"candidate_retrieval_source_map\":{\"5349592795116723\":3016},\"grouping_info\":null}","lightning_feed_qid":"-5681770244606129401","lightning_feed_ranking_signature":"5892227841965162496","ftmd_400706":"111112l"}&__tn__=!

"mayonais, 2 days before expiry date, used once"
Stored inside a furnace since new. Yummy!

 

[Imlach]

Come on people, things are worth as much as someone is willing to pay for them. We have all payed over the odds for something we desired that to another was deemed worthless.

The original thread was closed as one of the unwritten rules is to not judge others pricing, if it sells it sells, and a lot of sellers on bay were members on here who were just trying to sell parts and make some money outside of the forum.

I mean I kind of agree with your first point, but I'm going to say that your initial point, that 'things are worth as much as someone is willing to pay', is part of the reason why scum on eBay are charging insane amounts for shitty tat and - sometimes - good tat.
The idea that people should be holding on to things they don't need, have any use for, simply because it may be 'worth a good amount' once a desperate enough miserable sod notices and think 'that's exactly what I need' is just disgusting in my opinion. And I extend this to all collector hobbies, yes.

Overpricing stuff because you can, shows that you have no appreciation for the community of people that genuinely gain something, beyond cash, from their collecting and building. And I believe it should be called out, and I do call it out, because it matters to me.

I love seeing people complete their projects, I love seeing the stories behind builds - just like the rest of you. And it ruins everything when I see someone stating they bought a set of end caps or some bloody chainring bolt after donating their kidney to afford it.
That's why I support ridiculing prices, why I support calling out folks who do this, because they aren't furthering the hobby and mindset behind the hobby, they're obstructing it like some very selfish turd unwilling to clear the sphincter.

Who cares anyway, what do they have to lose? Perhaps we might prevent a desperate person from spending their hard earned cash on utter trash or something that should have been karma'ed to a person that could actually use it. Regardless of rarity.

Also, this was by no means pointed at you mk one - because your comment is entirely true, it's just that it's sad. And I'm an idealist. Sometimes. When drunk enough.

 

[dyna-ti]

folding bike for sale
https://www.facebook.com/marketplac...8?ref=product_details&referral_code=undefined

 

[incorrigible]

This has to be without doubt the biggest rip off....

...

I love seeing people complete their projects, I love seeing the stories behind builds - just like the rest of you. And it ruins everything when I see someone stating they bought a set of end caps or some bloody chainring bolt after donating their kidney to afford it.
That's why I support ridiculing prices, why I support calling out folks who do this, because they aren't furthering the hobby and mindset behind the hobby, they're obstructing it like some very selfish turd unwilling to clear the sphincter.

...

This is nothing new; it's been going on for years:
https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/a-more-diversified-investment-portfolio.403554/#post-2971398
I also detest people originating or perpetuating B.S. unsubstantiated unauthenticated uncorroborated claims of an item's pedigree (whether or not they themselves believe it). For sellers to dig their heels in when quoting hearsay as fact in order to try to justify an item's worth, its age, its rarity, etc. is just plain stupid; and it's a futile endeavor - a fool's errand - to try to argue with a stupid person. Besides, if a passerby sees you arguing with a stupid person, they won't be able to tell which one is stupider: the person telling the tall unsubstantiated tale, or the person attempting to reason with a stupid person.

All that said, I think we should all just calm down, cheer up, count our blessings, and keep in mind that life could be much worse (speaking of "clearing the sphincter"):
https://news.yahoo.com/remember-dave-matthews-band-tour-220053750.html
By the way, WTF - Wank The Frelder - is my OnlyFans username.

 

[legrandefromage]

Wank The Frelder is what I do at weekends,

I'm doing it now.

Anyway, the original thread was great fun as it exposed some that were taking advantage of us bleary eyed dingbats on this very forum. Now I know who these forum members are, I can avoid their vastly over inflated prices

 

[pw_pw_la]

I mean I kind of agree with your first point, but I'm going to say that your initial point, that 'things are worth as much as someone is willing to pay', is part of the reason why scum on eBay are charging insane amounts for shitty tat and - sometimes - good tat.
The idea that people should be holding on to things they don't need, have any use for, simply because it may be 'worth a good amount' once a desperate enough miserable sod notices and think 'that's exactly what I need' is just disgusting in my opinion. And I extend this to all collector hobbies, yes.

Overpricing stuff because you can, shows that you have no appreciation for the community of people that genuinely gain something, beyond cash, from their collecting and building. And I believe it should be called out, and I do call it out, because it matters to me.

I love seeing people complete their projects, I love seeing the stories behind builds - just like the rest of you. And it ruins everything when I see someone stating they bought a set of end caps or some bloody chainring bolt after donating their kidney to afford it.
That's why I support ridiculing prices, why I support calling out folks who do this, because they aren't furthering the hobby and mindset behind the hobby, they're obstructing it like some very selfish turd unwilling to clear the sphincter.

Who cares anyway, what do they have to lose? Perhaps we might prevent a desperate person from spending their hard earned cash on utter trash or something that should have been karma'ed to a person that could actually use it. Regardless of rarity.

Also, this was by no means pointed at you mk one - because your comment is entirely true, it's just that it's sad. And I'm an idealist. Sometimes. When drunk enough.

Wow, I spent a good few minutes making this exact rant the other day via text to someone.

I fundamentally do not believe in the "it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it" mantra.

No, it's worth what it's worth.

What someone is willing to pay for it, regardless of that, is something else entirely.

The price gauging element (and I admit I have often times paid over the odds for stuff, and that only helps perpetuate the inflated so-called market value) of this and other hobbies is what stands between normal people and the things they love. It's gatekeeping, even if unintentional.

Now, high end bikes and parts were always expensive, rare and special things deserve rare and special attention and should be priced accordingly, so it's not like I'm expecting a Cunningham to go for $500, even if the guy selling it found it at a garage sale for $50. But people charging inflated prices for the basics, or marking up their XT thumbies just because they can, can go ahead and rot in eBay hell, as far as I'm concerned.

And as for calling people out: It's a fine line, as no one should be harassed just for trying their luck. But, at the same time, I do feel like it's important that those who might not know better are guided a little more by those that do, when something's being sold that really might not be worth what's being asked for it. I personally appreciate hearing advice on pricing before I buy something, if someone knows better than me. And I have asked various people on here in the past for advice before I've bought certain things. People should know that they might want to wait for the next one to come around....

And sure, they might not want to. Which is why, perversely, I don't have any problem with someone paying over the odds for something they do really want. How people spend their own money is their business only.

How people make theirs is definitely mine tho!

 

[incorrigible]

Wank The Frelder is what I do at weekends,

I'm doing it now.

Anyway, the original thread was great fun as it exposed some that were taking advantage of us bleary eyed dingbats on this very forum. Now I know who these forum members are, I can avoid their vastly over inflated prices

Poor unfortunate Frelder. What did he ever do to be treated like that?
I guess that's what he gets for sticking his neck out.
I wonder how the Bishop feels about this?

 

[pw_pw_la]

I'm also aware that those of us without a lot of money often feel this way, and that it might have an element of jealousy or perceived unfairness, or just FOMO for all the things we want and can't afford, imbedded into it.

While those with a little more disposable income are often a little less staunch in their socialistic bike-buying beliefs!

Funny how that works.

I'm just a bitter blue collar bike builder! And that's OK. I do alright!

 

[mk one]

Wow, I spent a good few minutes making this exact rant the other day via text to someone.

I fundamentally do not believe in the "it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it" mantra.

No, it's worth what it's worth.

What someone is willing to pay for it, regardless of that, is something else entirely.

But surely the value of something is subjective?