SofTail comparative - Morati - Ibis - Serotta - Ritchey
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syncrosfan
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"Yes and my Mojo Titanium too."
Nosch!
He's one of my favorite builders.
next thing you're going to tell me you have a Bow-Ti as well...
Nosch!
He's one of my favorite builders.
next thing you're going to tell me you have a Bow-Ti as well...
syncrosfan":2jzo2dbk said:
Yes, comparative riding test enter two materials, two shok technologies and three frame conception.
For objective comparative, I have take hardtail model for reference.
By chance, I have Serotta and Ibis rigid with Ancotech tubeset very near.
-Materials :
Steel by Tange for Ritchey in WCS finish
Titanium 3Al 2.5V classic with 6-4 for BB or dropouts for all. Morati some classic tubes with machined parts, Ibis Ancotech tubes with machined plate for chainstays and Serotta Ancotech tubes on special tubeset quad butted !
Bikes :
syncrosfan
Senior Retro Guru
The Mojo Ti is a thing of beauty! Is the rigid fork from Ibis as well?
syncrosfan
Senior Retro Guru
The fork does match the frame pretty nicely.
I love the Ritchey (but why in the hell were they always making their head-tubes so short? The stack of spacers proves that it needs to be much higher to make the bike ride-able, I get it that the low front helps with climbing but c'mon it would feel pretty sketchy on a descent with it being so low, wish they had a more balanced geometry approach).
the Sik-Ti is a close second for me (love the flat plate chain-stays, the only thing kind of ugly is the oversized rubber boot around the shock area, wonder what's it looking like underneath?)
In any case it's an amazing collection!
I love the Ritchey (but why in the hell were they always making their head-tubes so short? The stack of spacers proves that it needs to be much higher to make the bike ride-able, I get it that the low front helps with climbing but c'mon it would feel pretty sketchy on a descent with it being so low, wish they had a more balanced geometry approach).
the Sik-Ti is a close second for me (love the flat plate chain-stays, the only thing kind of ugly is the oversized rubber boot around the shock area, wonder what's it looking like underneath?)
In any case it's an amazing collection!
Re:
:shock: stunning!
doesn't compare. but having one out of four (SilkTi) and a DeKerf Team ST currently in my stable isn't too bad!
:shock: stunning!
doesn't compare. but having one out of four (SilkTi) and a DeKerf Team ST currently in my stable isn't too bad!
agreed, not a huge fan of the big fat rubber boot in the back. though i believe i read somewhere that it is more than just a cover to keep that area clean and actually performs a function in helping with the shock performance. :?syncrosfan":1ru8j2px said:
syncrosfan
Senior Retro Guru
What kind of suspension element is in there? Is it air sprung? steel spring? elastomers?
Re:
are you asking me about the SilkTi? if so, it's elastomers. here's some good reading:
http://www.ibiscycles.com/about/303030/ ... _part_iii/
http://ibiscycles.consumedesign.com/pro ... b/silk_ti/
and you can still get service parts from Castellano, who designed both the BowTi and SilkTi when he was at Ibis:
http://www.castellanodesigns.com/tech.html
not sure if he's still offering, but he was building custom SilkTi 29 models a few years back.
are you asking me about the SilkTi? if so, it's elastomers. here's some good reading:
http://www.ibiscycles.com/about/303030/ ... _part_iii/
http://ibiscycles.consumedesign.com/pro ... b/silk_ti/
and you can still get service parts from Castellano, who designed both the BowTi and SilkTi when he was at Ibis:
http://www.castellanodesigns.com/tech.html
not sure if he's still offering, but he was building custom SilkTi 29 models a few years back.
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