Newbie needs help identifying a frame =) TIA

jacklero

Dirt Disciple
Hi Guys, am a newbie in the forums but I have been mtbiking for quite sometime already, I recently acquired a great steel/chomoly mtb frame from a good friend and wanted to ask your expert opinion in trying to determine its make and model. I have included a couple of pics and descriptions here that may come in handy.

Frame Material is Butted Chromoly, most likely Tange Prestige
Serial Number at the Bottom Bracket is YC986C00648
Seat tube diameter fits a 29.2 mm seatpost
Head tube diameter fits 1 1/8" head parts

Please do not mind the frame color, I temporarily spray primed it to prevent corrosion, got the frame with chrome plating however some areas had the plating nicked and showed surface corrosion which I removed and coated first with paint.

I did as much visual research as I could starting of with some of the obvious parts my friend told me. He said it was a ritchey frame, of what model I could not ascertain. Your help would be greatly appreciated in my trying to restore the frame to original color and decals.

Interesting bits in pictures (pardon the blurry shots, only got to use my camera phone)

Ritchey cast vertical dropouts fillet brazed to the stays with a "TR" logo stamped at the derailleur hanger.
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Most ritcheys' I've seen pictures of had the seat stays welded to the junction of the seat tube which also acted as the fastener for the seat post. It had a cantilever brake hanger.
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The bottom bracket is pretty standard and it had the serial number stamped on the left (non-drive side). Particularly interesting note is that the down tube was ovalized at both ends.
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The joints for everything seem to be TIG or electrode welding except for the dropouts and are very neat and even.

What makes me doubt however if this is a ritchey is that most of the ritcheys I saw had top cable routing for the brakes and bottom cable routing for the shifters but my frame has drive-side top tube mounted cable routing
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The closest visual identification I got was that of an old scott frame (after all a lot of good bikes used ritchey dropputs) but the seat stay/seat tube junction did not match up.

I really hope you guys could help. Its not that I want this bicycle to be super accurate nor do I regret getting it. It rides fantastic and I would want to trick out the color personally however I do have some period parts that I may be able to fit for that ultimate retro-look. Many thanks in advance, I bet you guys could help!!!

Yours truly,

Doy
 
About a month or so ago a member from Poland showed something with some resemblance. I concluded it could be a Bike Tech. Bike Techs were made by Toyo. Toyo made the Ritcheys too. It could be yours is Toyo made as well, but I do not know what make or model.
 
Hi Eric,

How can you be so sure?

To me there is quite a lot resemblance with a BikeTech (incl seatpost size), but with Ritchey stays (another product by the Toyo shop).

Moreover the Parkpres don't match exactly too.
 
Elev12k":xce72ifi said:
Hi Eric,

How can you be so sure?

To me there is quite a lot resemblance with a BikeTech (incl seatpost size), but with Ritchey stays (another product by the Toyo shop).

Moreover the Parkpres don't match exactly too.

I don't know what it is....and to be honest, I don't care. It looks like junk to me.

But general concensus was ParkPre.
 
@rumpfy
I hope you don't mind if I post in multiple forums particularly because I am trying to get as much input as I could on this frame, and while mtbr has a retro/vintage bike forum, I have been able to get a lot of info from retrobike before that was just not covered in mtbr. This is I guess the reason why we are members in multiple forums, right? Any which way I do thank you for your input regarding my query.

@Elev12k
Thank you for your input I looked at the catalog in the link you provided an it does seem closer to the bike tech frames than it is to the parkpre, I recall from some old bicycling magazines I had that very few frame manufacturers used the side of the top-tube for cable routing. Thank you, your input is of great help!

@billinjah
I too first thought it was but when I flipped through some of my older magazines (1992-199:cool: subscriptions the Parkpres' did not match when it came to seat tube diameter.

To all, if you have other inputs I would appreciate it, I do love riding the frame and frankly don't care much what decal I put in after it has been painted, but it is also nice to discover some history behind the bikes that we ride. Many thanks.
 
Hi,

Maybe you could try overhere => http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=46 (another forum :oops: )

I hope your German is acceptable :LOL:

The reason I am saying this is because they should know more on BikeTech (and Toyo in general probably) and there is simply a lot knowledge there. Nothing beats a dedicated German :mrgreen: ...or Japanese
 
Nothing wrong with forum hopping.

MTBR VRC is RetroBike friendly and visa versa.

Between the two forums, someone should be able to get you close.

Might want to take some better pictures or a full, clean side shot too.
 
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