need help with a muddyfox frame ID pleease

[rp16v]

Hi all I am new to the forum but have been stuck trying to I'd a frame for a coupe of years and only no of 2others that have been owned

And then I get another frame again muddyfox very simaler in build and geometry but different brake fittings the photos below show the brake mount being a smaller is bolt spacing that standard

First up is this from what I am aware is a monarch of some form poss team edition.

The second one has the disc mount on the seat stay and has a brace between the 2 stays I'll get pics up asap
Ant help would be great
Thanks

 

[velomaniac]

Interesting, looks like a marriage of old and new tech. Probably not originally disc fitted but tabs welded on and brake studs ground off then resprayed. Wonder what it was originally ?

 

[rp16v]

Re:

I no of 3 other frames and owners that have had the same fitments from new
i also have another that had the mount on the seat stay but the rest of the frame is the same.
again cannot find any photos or specs with the same frame design