Chopper the ex Copper
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A weight weenie would go all drillium on that lovely chainset.
Wonder what was the reason to that. In a way seat/grips would be as (or more) logical as they are even more ”personal fit” choises.The smaller frame will be a bit lighter, trust manufacturers to quote the weight of the smallest frame they make
Also a lot of manufacturer weights didn't include pedals
I would say all manufacturers would weigh the smallest frame size’s I know GT for the Xizang in there catalogue’sMy KHS is factory spec (maybe not the inner tubes, but who knows what they were!), and weighs in at 10.63kg
The brochure says 10.4kg but doesn't give any other detail.
My bike is a 17", and there was a 15" available. Could the built 15" be 230g lighter?
https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/1993-khs-montana-team.408440/#p3003475
And, as adorementioned by my good self, even tyres in many cases.Also a lot of manufacturer weights didn't include pedals
Would agree with this. Certainly up there with the best for an off the shelf lightweight package. The '95 Trek 9900 Pro Issue I had was a big old 21" gate but came in at 21.5 lbs, helped by Trek's own brand titanium seatpost and White Industry hubs. Far lighter and more responsive than my '91 GT Xizang LE. I always was under the impression though that the Klein Adroit was the pinnacle of lightness in the early 90s.Lightest factory mtb, up to '97 I would have thought maybe one of the Trek OCLV frames or something like that would be up there? Giant mcm etc. I've had a few 'Dales and they are definately light straight out of the box, as were the aluminium Kona's eg Kula with Easton tubing.
My steel Orange Prestige was/is 24/25lbs and that's with a lot of lighter aftermarket parts fitted.... Lightweight really does begin with the frameset.