Lightest factory MTB?

There are sacrifices that can be made for weight savings but the reality is that I want a suspension fork and a comfortable seat and a triple chainring on the crankset and tubes in my tires. 25 pounds is the sweet spot for me. Any lighter and I won't be happy with the bike. I could probably put knobby tires and a carbon flat bar on the lightest road bike I could find and call it the lightest mountain bike around but what would be the point of that. I would just have a bike to throw over my shoulder as I run the trail.
 
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The smaller frame will be a bit lighter, trust manufacturers to quote the weight of the smallest frame they make 😆
Also a lot of manufacturer weights didn't include pedals 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
The smaller frame will be a bit lighter, trust manufacturers to quote the weight of the smallest frame they make 😆
Also a lot of manufacturer weights didn't include pedals 🤷🏼‍♂️
Wonder what was the reason to that. In a way seat/grips would be as (or more) logical as they are even more ”personal fit” choises.
 
Also a lot of manufacturer weights didn't include pedals 🤷🏼‍♂️
And, as adorementioned by my good self, even tyres in many cases.

The only figure you can trust is the one you can see on your own scales, besause even if your particular manufacturer is honest and realistic its odds on that any given brand you compare them to won't be.
 
I'm rebuilding my first gen Tracer as a weight weenie. If you haven't tried Tubolito tubes, do it. It was tough to swallow the price but the weight savings are crazy. I have them in Crossmaxes with 345g Kenda tires and it's shocking how light the package is.
 
Lightest factory mtb, up to '97 I would have thought maybe one of the Trek OCLV frames or something like that would be up there? Giant mcm etc. I've had a few 'Dales and they are definately light straight out of the box, as were the aluminium Kona's eg Kula with Easton tubing.
My steel Orange Prestige was/is 24/25lbs and that's with a lot of lighter aftermarket parts fitted.... Lightweight really does begin with the frameset.
Would agree with this. Certainly up there with the best for an off the shelf lightweight package. The '95 Trek 9900 Pro Issue I had was a big old 21" gate but came in at 21.5 lbs, helped by Trek's own brand titanium seatpost and White Industry hubs. Far lighter and more responsive than my '91 GT Xizang LE. I always was under the impression though that the Klein Adroit was the pinnacle of lightness in the early 90s.
 
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