Do I need an integrated headset for this?

[TorqueSport]

Hi All,

After a bit of advice regarding headset.

I am after a headset for the following frame (see below).

It looks like it needs a integrated headset but I am not sure exactly.
The last time I fitted a headset these things didn't exist.

What happens to the cups already in the frame?

Thanks

 

[Timoth27]

Re:

Hi, a bit more info would really help. What frame is that, is that top or bottom, is it tapered, can you measure the diameter of top and bottom. I find this really helpful

https://www.hopetech.com/wp-content/upl ... 011Web.pdf

 

[TorqueSport]

Re:

Thanks Timoth27,

I have not got the dimensions as I have not purchased yet, but will try to find out.

Here is a another picture, doesn't look tapered to me.
looks integrated according to that Hope guide.

In a typical integrated set up, does the integrated headset interface with those internal cups mounted in the frame already?

 

[Timoth27]

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Yeah I’d agree it’s not tapered and it looks like it’s intergral (2/b) which means you will need to knock out the old cups and install the new ones that come with the new headset. It’s tricky just from a pic as it could be a integrated which is slightly different size. What’s the brand/ model? I don’t recognise it?

 

[TorqueSport]

I saw it on ebay and have never heard of the brand, here is another image:

 

[Timoth27]

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Interesting, I can find a couple of images but no info. Looking at the hope info again it looks like the intergrated doesn’t actually use a race in the frame so pretty sure it’s an integral (sometime referred to as semi intergrated) headset.

 

[mdvineng]

at the age that frames from, I wouldn't be surprised if the black bits are just the remnants from a cheap headset race seat.
a bit like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ETC-Semi-Int ... :rk:8f:0

 

[TorqueSport]

at the age that frames from, I wouldn't be surprised if the black bits are just the remnants from a cheap headset race seat.
a bit like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ETC-Semi-Int ... :rk:8f:0

Thanks yep that would make sense, so I'd have to remove those before doing anything.

Have you seen this frame before, can't find any information on the net, can't work out if its any good?

 

[mdvineng]

at the age that frames from, I wouldn't be surprised if the black bits are just the remnants from a cheap headset race seat.
a bit like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ETC-Semi-Int ... :rk:8f:0

Thanks yep that would make sense, so I'd have to remove those before doing anything.

Have you seen this frame before, can't find any information on the net, can't work out if its any good?

no idea where or what the frame is to be honest, looks more like a badge engineered generic item to me. it could be a nice frame or not, onlky riding it will tell but that type of headset isn't used on high end stuff.

 

[mattr]

only riding it will tell but that type of headset isn't used on high end stuff.

I have them on some high end frames, aluminium and carbon.

Might be worth weighing the frame to get an idea of what it's made out of, i.e. butted high grade aluminium or basic plain gauge.