Any info appreciated

[Big Yin]

Can anyone help identify this old bike , sorry if I’ve posted in the wrong place .

 

[Big Yin]

Additional photo

 

[hamster]

I'd guess 1960s-70s from the braze-ons. Definitely not bottom end as it has nice cast dropouts on the rear. I'm not 100% convinced the fork is original as it has mudguard eyes and the rear doesn't. Check if there is a serial number on the steerer tube. I guess it's 27" wheels?

The pump pegs are a bit of a puzzle and I'd expect at least one bottle cage braze-on set (but at that time there was a fashion for minimal braze-ons).

 

[jim haseltine]

I'd go with that, the forks look like Far Eastern Tange-type generic replacements. I wouldn't necessarily expect bottle bosses on a frame of that era, especially when there don't appear to be any cable stops or guides on the top tube.

 

[Big Yin]

I'd guess 1960s-70s from the braze-ons. Definitely not bottom end as it has nice cast dropouts on the rear. I'm not 100% convinced the fork is original as it has mudguard eyes and the rear doesn't. Check if there is a serial number on the steerer tube. I guess it's 27" wheels?

The pump pegs are a bit of a puzzle and I'd expect at least one bottle cage braze-on set (but at that time there was a fashion for minimal braze-ons).

Thanks for your reply , appreciate your input . I’ve tried to separate the steerer and head stock but not managed as seems seized . What would the numbers on BB represent ? . Wheels are 27 but not sure there original either . Looks like someone tried to make a fixie of it and built from the hub and didn’t exactly make the best of jobs .

 

[TreaderSteve]

63=1963? 5=May? 044= serial? As a guess.

 

[hamster]

Thanks for the extra photo - I agree that those wheels look nasty and - as you say - it's been got-at and made into a fixie.

 

[Big Yin]

Thanks for the extra photo - I agree that those wheels look nasty and - as you say - it's been got-at and made into a fixie.

 

[Big Yin]

I'm not an expert by far but sure I could make a better job than that , not sure if the frame is worth building on thou ? Really interested in what it may be .

 

[pigman]

Features look very much like the viscount Sebring I had as a teenager
Forks look like the same
Seat cluster was similar
Even though it was a mediocre frame, it had a mech hanger
Lugged frame with a lugless bottom bracket.