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PS also just found in his book the purchase from new was 21/3/1985 - £199.95 so managed to date it!!!

OMG thats it!! - much more pristine condition TBF :)

hi everyone thanks so much for your help - ive now taken a few pics of what i hope are the important bits! the bike has bnot yet been cleaned to has dust and sawdust on it still! -Not even sure if this is relevant to dating the bike but he listed the frame number WB3001113

sorry it also might not be 1989 im tryin to work that out but he started his book listing components in 1989 and this was the first bike entered

thanks so much i wasnt even sure i would ever get a reply let alone relies that quick i will get photos btu in advance ive looked through his book and it means nothing but....here goes.... Raleigh record ace 531c size 22 1/2 hubs spidel normandy competition rims weidmann alloy 27 x 1.25 gears...

i dont even know where to start - my dad passed away and had a rayleigh record ace road bike 1989 in really good nic but i know nothing at all about bikes - he kept a log of every single component from gears to brakes to chainset and fork ends whatever that lot is in a book that i have anyway...