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Re: Probably a good idea.

Re: The CB Coureur got nervex lugs in '61 but could it have had campag rear ends?

Re: Interesting stuff, I can see no evidence of an oiler hole having been filled in and it doesn't have semi wrap over stays so I guess that rules cordon bleau out.

I still haven't managed to get a definite i.d. on the frame. Thanks for the post, some very useful information there.

Vagner fork crowns seem to have been in use from the 60"s onwards so maybe this at least gives an earliest date of manufacture. I have been trying look for head badges with holes that match those on the headtube (58 mm). So far I have found holdsworth, claud butler and viking to be the same...

Re: It is this style of fork crown that made me think of holdsworth as here it is on a holdsworth.

Re: There are pictures on this thread that I posted some time ago. viewtopic.php?t=335923

Re: I have been trying to identify a frame which I believe may be a holdsworth. The classic lightweights website mentions that holdsworth used nervex lugs on the cyclone and hurricane models in the late 50's which had spearpoints added. I was wondering whether that was always the case.

Does anybody know whether spear points were always added to nervex pro lugs on when used on holdsworth frames?

Re: Re: I think it will be hard to pin it down, it doesn't seem to have any specific features. A chap at L'eroica last year thought it may be a Viking but they had six figure numbers it think.

Re: Re: The head badges of all the Holdsworth brands seem to match up with the holes then.

Rear brake bridge

It's curved

I'm in Stoke on Trent and the frame was bought from an ebay seller in Macclesfield who didn't know the maker. I have emailed Ellis Briggs with pictures but they say it's not one of theirs. I thought it may be a Holdsworth built Claud Butler but just a guess.

Re: Yes it's the same frame. Blue when i bought it then it got a diy paint job prior to building it up.

Hopefully it has worked this time.

Re: Oops, I'll repost them as soon as I can

I'm trying to identify the origin of this frameset bought on ebay last year. If has Nervex pro lugs and bottom bracket with a four figure serial number and campagnolo rear drop outs. The gap between the holes for the head badge is 57mm.