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He's not kidding. It's enormous. I've seen full grown adults who's seat tubes are shorter than the headtube on this high quality gate.

Thanks. Appears it is a 1982 410.

a mate was asking me roughly what this big old trek tourer might be worth. Way, way outside my area of expertise, can anyone help please? it's very big - he is 6ft5 and that's his saddle height. drivetrain parts look to be non original, budgety but usable quality, sora chainset, altus...

A quick experimental buffing revealed the witness mark of a rectangular decal with sharp corners that was over the joint.

I've handled a lot of cup and cone hubs in my time and this one is one of the smoothest so I'm leaving it well alone! I've got some autosol so I'll give it a quick buff

mine went at the corner of the taper from memory.

Good luck. they had a tendency to crack in the taper and so are pretty rare. I had a NOS set back in about 2010 and they lasted 2 years of light use before cracking

Great info both, thanks. Braking surface is really tiny to my eye, perhaps that's a clue? I got it from a pile of stuff outside a house clearance labelled 'free, please take' and judging by the wide selection of tools and odd bits etc there the previous owner was a long time tinkerer so may...

Acquired a nice wheel recently. Campag record hub, which I think is 70s/80s. The spokes and rim are more interesting Rim is a tubular. Polished silver. Eyelets. 32 spokes. Closest thing I've found online is a Mavic monthlery, but it could be a brand that went away before my (90s onward) era...

http://www.vizualimpact.co.uk/ based here in Bristol. They already had the decals you see on file, probably from their work with Argos cycles

Now sold. I would've gone for it if I hadnt taken the car to bits. No expert but I think.its an 80s super.

Needs some TLC... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1871257716604296

Argos is run by blokes in shop coats. They'll probably be able to tell you what the framebuilder had for lunch the day he made it. And if you really want to feel extra good about your purchase, have a look how much a new one would cost....

Argos are still going strong here in Bristol and will probably have records of the paint. Give them a ring!

Surly cross check fork is close but has 44mm rake.

Interestingly I've just turned up a post on cyclinguk forum with info on what the Woodrup Jacksons will cost. Audax/End-End in Reynolds 725 with standard lugs and all appropriate eyelets - £1585. Vigorelli (singlespeed/fixed) in 725 with standard lugs will - £1550 Olympus (road racing) in 725...

Rourke are the closest on price to Jackson I could find. Rourke's primary competition is probably Mercian, and their cheapest is about £1200 which would suggest that 1100-1200 about the price for making a lugged 631 in the UK. Jackson prices were just unrealistic, propped up by convenient...

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That makes a lot of sense actually. A price has to be charged that makes the business viable.

If they were really 32 man hours at 500 quid that's £15 a man hour. That's not a lot for a skilled fabricator, and that's not allowing for any of the costs of the materials, premises, employers NI etc etc etc. It's no wonder they couldn't attract any new staff at that, the old boys must have...