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Re: Hi, if you had started these queries in an open manner we could of got to answer quicker, it is a Stuart Purves, very rare and built by Les Ephgrave, early fifties as suspected, it has been rebadged by Roy Thame, a common practice when repainting and recycling bikes through a cycle shop. I...

Re: Hi, I think the discussion should move to the Claud Butler Identification thread, CB were making loads of frames in this period, they probably had a number of different sets of stamps, and different people doing it, that is why other clues are required, numbers are just numbers. Any way...

Re: Hi, full frame pictures would be good, serial number very Selbach like but lugs look like they are post war, R O Harrison serial numbers are similar, but 90 degrees, but ( a second but ) he worked for Selbach before starting his own business, if so could be 41 or 51, piccies please. Thanks...

Re: Hi, BSA bought the Sunbeam bicycle setup from AMC in 1943, this at first glance looks to be either an AMC Sunbeam or BSA, the chrome cover on fork crown points to this, the old sunbeam serial number was either on the seat lug or head tube, but ! Plenty of info on the interweb. Thanks Terry

Re: Hi, i'm not saying it is or it isn't, but in my experiences of trying to identify frames, you need everything to line up, and even then there can be a slight doubt. So what facts have we got, it is a beautifully constructed frame from at a guess the 1960's. The serial number if using the...

Re: Hi, it is an early No1, they had the 'earwig' ends instead of a spearpoint in the middle of the head tube, check out the Classic Lightweight site. Lovely stem. Thanks Terry

Re: Hi, quite a few makers made there own stems at one point, Hobbs, and Morris definitely did and I think Ephgrave did, it does look like it was made in 'shop'. Thanks Terry

Re: Yes, it is an Apollo, I was doing it off the top of my head, age related recall issues :D :D It is not the normal macleans you see in forums, nice to see, and thanks for the correction. Terry

Re: Hi, from this distance it looks like the top of the range Macleans, the Eclipse, that lovely lug set puts it firmly in the 40's and early 50's. It is rare and very collectible, it would do very well in the auction arena. I don't like giving values from a distance, but I would expect it to...

Re: Hi, it might be a Snipe http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... p;t=302820, if he bought it new, you maybe able to find a catalogue on line, the Carlton Sun's were just clones, and the model name changed sometimes yearly. Thanks Terry

Hi, I think you will find it is a royal Enfield, the three field guns give it away, thanks Terry

Re: Hi, I'll make a start, not my usual build but I'll get to see what a modern bike goes like :D . I've put together a 1994 Condor Professional with 753 tubing, I picked the frame up at a jumble with a fractured chain stay, it is in very good condition with just a few age related blemishes...

Re: Hi, that's lovely, and a very rare beast as Hobbs didn't produce many during the war due to the bombing of the shop, so you do have your 'history', I can't recall seeing a Hobbs with a clip type headset post war ( tandems aside ), maybe they dropped them when they moved to Dagenham after...

Re: Hi, yes, that is a correct assumption, it is a classic claud serial number. Thanks Terry

Re: Hi, there are bits and pieces around the internet on Saxon but it is very limited, Saxon were a well respected builder before the war, but the brand was bought by Claud Butler after the war. It is more than likely a Claud, piccies would help, you can use a photo website ( i.e. Flickr ) and...

Re: Hi, great find, I concur with all your scribblings, when I was looking into my Olympic Sprint ( currently in BOTM comp - worth checking out the paint scheme as it is original ) I also found a very small handful ( one or two if I remember correctly ) of non Track 'Olympic Sprint' lug types...

Re: Hi, my guess would be a Claud Butler Coronation made in December 1954 ( 5412 in the serial number ), a nice light bike, I suspect it originally would be for a fixed wheel or sturmey hub. Terry

Re: These are taking longer than a six day event to get on the road, but plenty of time and getting there, both frames have the original paint from 1952 ( CNC not sure about 52 but thereabouts ), looks I'll be riding fixed this summer. Thanks Terry

Re: Hi, just to be aware, I have an original frame ( my parts ) about a half year later than yours, close to your colour, I've attached a piccie. Thanks Terry

Re: Thanks to everyone who voted for my BSA, it was good to see some old roadsters, they still have a place, I have a few in my long queue for restoration, go on try one. Thanks Terry