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My theory is that bicycles had become so good, even entry level components from the likes of Shimano are so good, low cost and robust now (we can thank the invention of the mountain bike for much of that), that manufacturers were presented with a big problem. They just couldn't make what we have...

Just a soggy 30 miler on another Ebay bike, I rather like it

FANTASTIC Can you spare 1 SORA and 1 Claris (assuming they are 3x8:cool: let me know an email adress and the postage cost and I will paypal you the money, or I can do a bank transfer whichever you prefer, my email is vaughanbrean@hotmail.co.uk

The vast majority are over £2000 it seems

Yes they were TREK high end, massive depreciation no doubt and they will (IMO) go out fasion as swiftly as they appeared see here https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/bikes/road-bikes/gravel-bikes/c/B546/

👍I am sure someone will take offence but it's only a bit of fun

Taiwanese alloy frames seem broadly of similar quality across the price range

Obviously most parts had been replaced over the years with the exception of the wheels which lasted incredibly well, I rode them well past the wear line and they were dangerous when I retired the bike, but they stayed true and the hubs lasted well, screw on freewheel proved a good idea

Ps I enthusiastically embraced mountain bikes when they first landed as they gave us so many new and useful features, but not these, I think they will prove to be a fad

Fistly I must say that I have no desire to start arguments or bickering with this thread, its light hearted and tongue in cheek and aimed at prompting discussion, this is after all "Retrobike", but I just see so many trends in modern cycling that are pure expensive marketing gimmicks and new...

I will launch "Mangizmos rant of the day" later today 😂

OK GUYS, I will do it, I will keep it light hearted as people can take it the wrong way, which forum shall I start it in?

Great idea😃

I was ranting about overpriced ridiculous faddy gravel bikes, but I figured I might offend 😂

YAAAAAAAYYYY looks fantastic, yes silver chromplastic mudguards are a must, not cheap but they last forever and do the job. Personally I dont find any canti brakes satisfactory so I have swapped mine out for some V brakes with top mounted cyclo X style levers too and they work soooooo much...

GREAT I look forward to it, at a push 3x7 would be ok too just lose 1 gear which would be ok thanks

Thanks, but its a conversion for my son and he wants to stick with his 8 speed cassette and chain, thanks for the reply though

Ahhh, not a problem I have ever had but yes I can see that is possible

I totally agree, they must appeal to some people, I am just surprised there is a market but we are all different

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