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Any idear who H would have been at CB in late 40's, got hold of this frame off the Bay. I assume the dots and >< on the forks do not mean anything and the H is a builder initial.

Re: 1981 Claud Butler Colstar #035210

Next Retro Project lined up. 1948 CB International Fixed wheel, same treatment as the Pro. Target weight 6.5Kg, will be pleased to get it below 7Kg.

dwscrimshaws 1980 Holdsworth Pro SL - Retro viewtopic.php?f=23&t=413894 Been working on this Ebay purchased frame over lock down. Repaint and some lightweight kit, Nice and light retro at 7.36Kg to chase much younger club riders. Done a few hundred miles on it now goes well as intended.

I wouldn't get too hung up on the colour is its a contract build for Eclipse.

Yes, that's mid 84 according to prediction so not unreasonable to take some time to get sold via your route. Also prediction may not be 100% anyway. I have attached some pictures of lugs on what is listed as Majestic. You can find more if you look up the database on the history site.

the link is http://www.nkilgariff.com/ I have attached a typical 6 Digit number in its more usual location on the drive side BB. This happens to be at CB Majestic.

Yes, I was going to suggest looking for similar model on the history site. Do you have a picture of the number and its location?

Sorry, still not seeing any pictures. It would need to be mid 84 too.

yes, can't see that as holdsworth number, nor a CB number either.

That number, 060855, without any pictures of the frame looks like a typical Holdsworth 6 Digit number. it is purely sequential and if built by Holdsworth would be ~mid 1984. There is no build date in bedded in the number and only a few frames built in 85 as they had been taken over by Marlboro...

6 Digit numbers seem common on RT frames so if these lugs look the same as yours you could have a lead here. If you google or ebay RT frames you can see the style of numbering used. (RT did use Holdsworth shop numbering system for a while, these were 5 Digit staring with 2 digit year)

Yes, that's a typical Pre-Holdsworth, CB number. Could be 30's or 40's as the first digit is the year and the second the month. You would have to look at the rest of the frame to ID it. As it happens I have that one logged in the database and it is July 1949, Seq. #2465. When the month gets into...

Re: could you supply some pictures inc. the number?

No, I think that would make it a classic, this one is the Pro SL I believe.

I have 700x23C Conti GP5000 in as they are good road tyres, just clears the bridge, but had to relive the caliper mount a bit. No sign of rubbing on tyre so far. I did try 25C's but wheel lock up totally at full pressure, so I have some expensive tyres for the Monsoon or the Raleigh. I have...

Been busy over lock down getting this on the road. Looking to build a light bike to keep up on club rides. 1980 Holdsworth Pro SL with some modern lightweight components. Can't get anything bigger then 23C's in the rear due to brake bridge. Weighs in a 7.36kg and feels taught and light...

The frame number would suggest mid 1972 build, could have been sold latter that year or even 73. I would suggest you look in on the attached web site for model details that match your frame in early 70's. http://www.nkilgariff.com/

Re: Frame identification help....I know I know Well just goes to show what custom builds through up from time to time. I have found some more from the Marlboro era with these windows too, one of them is badged as a CB. I guess it comes down to do all the other frame features fit an early 70's...

Re: Frame identification help....I know I know I have to say I am getting less convinced by those windows in the lugs. Can only think of pro SL with any sort of windows.