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Straight from Orange: Hi Graeme, R & RS is the build spec. the frames are the same… Hope this help. Kind regards Rachel Sales So that's it. [/i]

Ok, that's a start. I'm awaiting pics, I'll make a judgement. When is yours arriving?

Re: Hi, newbie's first post Do you have pics? Particularly of any transfers which might say 'C16RS', rather than just 'C16R'. Thanks

Absolutely!! Look at those cockeyed, nose in the air long travel front forks monstrosities or the over heavy looking cheap full suspension jobs. Look at the retro stuff, slim, well proportioned, light, simple. And why disks? A mountain bike has a contact patch of about 1cm square on...

Can you remember if there were any different markings? It's just the frame I am buying and I don't want to pay a premium, even a small one, over a standard C16R. And come on folks, what would you pay for a decent condition C16R frame? I wont sue anyone. I have no idea.

My wife had a pair of those, bought for the same reason I bought the Umma Gummas I had at the time, they colour coordinated with the rest of the bike, a Sea and Sky Pulse in her case.

So is that a standard XT hanger/bracket that it's bolted to? I thought they were steel bands, not aluminium. What are all the XTR M900 shifter/aftermarket lever people hanging their shifters from? Sorry to hijack your thread. :)

I always wanted a chopper but we was poor. :( I could only look at the other kids in envy. I rode an old rod braked thing with two bolts for pedals and a crossbar that would have whacked me in the knackers every dismount had I been only a couple of years older. Ahh, but we was 'appy.

The shifter hanger in your pic 'front shifter'.

I need a pair really. What is it? It is certainly the same colour as the X-lite hanger I had.

Re: x lite bar ends What does this do to the surface? Does the oven cleaner stain the ali? I have a blue Middleburn rear that I would like silver at some time and I don't want to bugger it up.

Does anyone have an opinion, anyone used them. Good, bad, indifferent? Thanks

red ZMax, skinwall, in 1.7 or 1.9 pref to match existing. thanks

Top idea. Can't find an email address on the website, I'm sure it will be someone@orangebikes.co.uk but does anyone have a name there? Thanks And if it's a plain or garden C16R what's a reasonable price for a decent condition frame?

Hangers How much for the shifter hangers? Do you have the pair? Thanks Graeme

Not much info, just a seat tube size guide with year and model: http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/main/techfaqs.php

How is a C16RS different to a C16R? I have an option on a frame and it's being held up as 'very rare, only made in '96'. The Orange site only lists C16Rs and puts them into two year groups. Was the difference just in the equipment spec or is it in the frame? Guide price for a decent one...

Using my Dia Compe AheadSet and Club Roost I Beam stem. Bottom race is 15mm from crown seat to headtube seat. Top race is 14mm from tube seat to top of race. Stem is 50mm deep. Total 79mm Less depth of headset cap, in my case 7mm. Add my tube at 120mm and I need a steerer of...

Just bought these off ebay, didn't realise they were gold, faint gold hue in pic which I ignored as a cast. Didn't mention gold in text. Of course now I look I can clearly see they are gold. Ho hum.Ho hum. Make me an offer, they are in perfect nick, NOS, but I have no use for them...

Same guy who paid £400 for these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0102851731 :shock: